...and I call bullshit...it was another narrative misconstrued and twisted by the religious right.
One woman misspoke during an interview (a mother of 4 kids), admits to that error and every pro lifer this side of the equator is foaming at the mouth like a bunch of rabid dogs.
Meanwhile Trump is going 1,000 lies a minute, and paying off his affairs with campaign funds, and it's "whoopsie" he's only human....(one can only wonder how many abortions he's paid for in his lifetime)
"Virginia law already allows for third-trimester abortions — about one percent of all abortions, according to the CDC — if three physicians agree a pregnant woman’s mental or physical health is at risk. Tran’s bill would have reduced the requisite number of doctors to one, and removed the requirement for anticipated harm to be “substantially and irredeemably” were she denied an abortion. (“How confident do you have to be that a woman is going to die?” a Harvard Medical School professor and specialist in maternal-fetal medicine once put it to me. “What if there would be complete loss of renal function — does that not merit consideration? What if a woman is going to go blind if she remains pregnant? Those are the kind of nuances that are hard to make bumper stickers out of")
https://www.thecut.com/2019/02/the-false-outrage-over-kathy-trans-infanticide-bill.html
"Under current law in Virginia, third-trimester abortions are permitted when a woman’s physician and two other doctors certify that continuing a pregnancy would result in a mother’s death, or “substantially and irremediably impair the mental or physical health of the woman.” This week Kathy Tran, a Democrat in Virginia’s House of Delegates, testified in favor of a bill that would end the requirement for two extra doctors to sign off on such abortions, and strike the words “substantially and irremediably” from the existing law. Similar legislation has been introduced in past years. Despite what you might have heard, at no point did Tran try to legalize infanticide."
Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/syndicated-columnists/article225606240.html#storylink=cpy
"Virginia Del. Kathy Tran said Thursday that she “misspoke” during a legislative hearing earlier this week about a bill that would have loosened restrictions on late-term abortions. Her comments sparked death threats, and intense backlash from GOP politicians — including President Trump.
“I wish that I was quicker on my feet and I wish that I was able to be more agile in that moment,” Tran, 41, a first-term Democrat from Fairfax County, said in an interview. “And I misspoke, and I really regret that.”
When a Republican lawmaker asked during the hearing whether the bill would allow for an abortion to occur when a woman is in labor and about to give birth, Tran said yes.
But on Thursday, Tran, a mother of four, corrected herself. “I should have said: ‘Clearly, no, because infanticide is not allowed in Virginia, and what would have happened in that moment would be a live birth.’ ”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/lawmaker-at-center-of-abortion-bill-firestorm-elected-as-part-of-democratic-wave-that-changed-richmond/2019/01/31/d4f76ecc-2565-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html?utm_term=.66a4db026638
Why do you keep saying she is a Mother of four? Honestly? It does not matter how many children she has as to whether she believes or believed what she said. It was a pretty fucking straight forward answer as to the questions as to the scope of a bill as written.
It would be strawmanning of the highest order to:
Say that bring this up is akin to foaming at the mouth.
That her status as a mother of four has any premise that she said what she said about the limits or lack thereof with what 3rd term abortions include.
That Trump makes 1000 lies per minute
That Trump lying has ANY relationship to what she said
That anyone making death threats has the effect of changing what she said
That I said she or you said she said that she was supporting infanticide. (I stated clearly that Northam was but not her).
Lot of strawmanning.
Democrats on such messages will take things to the line and then past the line and then when outrage ensues they back off and cite that they misspoke and are sorry and such. It is nothing more than testing the boundaries.
See there are many people like myself who think that there should be a way for women and girls to get abortions. I am not someone who thinks abortion should be available unrestricted but I think there should be a pathway there. But Democrats have this ball and they will open it up to all women and girls, at all times, and without any restrictions, and no matter how far along the unborn living baby is to being born, and then allow the scope of this to include up to being in labour (Tran), and then go one further step - just after birth (Northam).
It is only once they have pushed this too far they fallback but by that time they have shown there hand. Don't worry though because there are people like you Icequeen happy to downplay, misrepresent or strawman.
You are a horse's arse Icequeen.
