Trump is functionally retarded

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

I have a horse and an opinion in this.  Mom and Dad were married in early October.  I was born in August, about 11 months later.  Mom asked her mom for money to abort me.  Grandma Teenie said no. 

I don't know how Dad felt about the pregnancy and my proposed abortion.  Dad went to university full time, worked full time and graduated in 3 years.  They were very broke the whole time.  They moved once because Mom could keep me safe from the rats that would sneak into my crib to get at my bottle, but the fleas were the deal breaker. 

Understandably I'm against abortion except in very limited circumstances.  Judaism doesn't have one governing body that dictates Jewish law.  The Old Testament says that life begins when the first breath is taken since G_d breathed life into Adam and Eve.  So until the baby takes a breath it isn't a human being.  Abortions are usually forbidden for a first pregnancy because the mother has had a life while the fetus should have the opportunity for life.  If it is a second or later pregnancy then abortion is allowed in case of the mother's life because she has a child/children who need a mother. 

It's not perfect, but it's what I choose to believe.

I totally respect your beliefs. I was raised Catholic. I am strongly pro-choice but at the same time... at a personal level, if I had a womb I don't believe that I could ever choose to abort a fetus except in very exceptional circumstances.

If we want less abortions, how about making contraception more readily available? How about supporting poor women who have babies not just during their pregnancy, but after their babies are born as well?

Abortion rates are lower among atheists. Abortion rates are lower in Australia, where abortion is generally more readily available, than in the US. Sweden has a similar rate to the US.

Sweden and US?

Or should that be Sweden and Australia?

I was surprised that Sweden and the US have similar rates of abortion. I expected Sweden's rate to be much lower.

Why?

Because I expected that proper education on how not to get pregnant rather than focusing on abstinence, access to social welfare, access to contraception, would work better than punitive legislation.

Wonder what is in those figures.

The Dutch have a very low induced abortion rate. And apparently 13% of those abortions happen to women from abroad. From countries with more strict legislation.

Does Sweden have a high abortion rate because of something like that? Or is, for some groups, or most people in Sweden abortion a method of birth control?

Abortion in Germany is mostly illegal. Maybe they fly to Sweden? All good points there Andersom.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

I’m crazy, apparently. Just got out of the mental hospital. Hope to recover from whatever strain in my mind that is causing this.

Hope you're feeling better.

You're in the right place for crazy.

['andersom']

I’m crazy, apparently. Just got out of the mental hospital. Hope to recover from whatever strain in my mind that is causing this.

 

Sorry life is rough for you right now.

[renaeden]

I’m crazy, apparently. Just got out of the mental hospital. Hope to recover from whatever strain in my mind that is causing this.

I had wondered where you were. Hope the experience wasn't too bad and you're on the mend, feeling better.

[odeon]

I just love the live entertainment today. I love it how the republicans spend their slots whining while the democrats ask all the fun questions. All this while the main character is off to Vietnam, desperately hoping for a diversion.

[Icequeen]

I just love the live entertainment today. I love it how the republicans spend their slots whining while the democrats ask all the fun questions. All this while the main character is off to Vietnam, desperately hoping for a diversion.

This shit is fucking priceless.

Loved when Higgins is asking about why Cohen didn't turn over the boxes of files he's getting his records from...and Cohen is trying to tell them him he did, they were seized in the raid and returned by the Feds after they looked through them...and the dude is still fucking clueless as to why he has the boxes.

How the hell do some of these morons even tie their shoes?

[Genesis]

If this country goes downhill it's the fault of the idiots that placed the "supreme orange man" in his position.

The Green deal?
The ever more radically Socialist Democrats?
Unprotected Southern border?
Bills proposed to kill babies when they are born?

There are much bigger concerns than Trump. What policies does he have and what actions that are bad or problematic and bad for the world? I don't care about words or personal proclivities. If you are struggling after two years to find anything REALLY bad then you need to look at some of the kind of shit above.

There are ways of improving the southern border without overhyping it! 

A wall is not going to do a damn thing to help the southern border issues.... they're needing to look at the tunnels that are below it!

The Socialist Democrats are nothing new, there's been a lot of Socialist ideals throughout the years in the states... Eugene Debbs, Upton Sinclair, both of those guys were around way before Sanders and AOC... Some socialism was used to bring the stuff that was of benefit after the Haymarket Square Riots, it's where the Americans have their 40 hour work weeks, benefits, unions (though the unions of today are a bit much), The shit that Trump and the GOP are doing is far worse than what the Socialist Democrats are proposing...

The whole thing of killing babies when they're born is somewhat over-hyped right now... because both sides cannot provide credible evidence to back their claims. Yes there are some cases where it happens in Bucharest back in the Soviet Era, or even in other countries...

What I do not understand is why it's necessary to take an extreme approach to get his point across... an approach that's been said and done for centuries... an approach that often leads to isolationism, and xenophobic tendencies.

What should matter as of right now is focusing on fixing the migrant problems, not demonizing people just because a select few do not take legal means to gain residential status and/or citizenship.

[Genesis]

Also Al... the Green New Deal is a proposal that is meant to take its time... not strictly enforce asap.

Didn't you hear about the 2020 proposal that other countries were planning 7 years ago or so? The idea was to make going green initiatives to be completed around that frame of time... places like San Fransisco, Vancouver, Oslo, and other cities using alternative energy to improve the climate, etc, etc.

If it's proposed early, I don't see why it's such a big deal to bitch about it.

[Genesis]

How the hell do some of these morons even tie their shoes?

They probably make their significant others do it 

[odeon]

I just love the live entertainment today. I love it how the republicans spend their slots whining while the democrats ask all the fun questions. All this while the main character is off to Vietnam, desperately hoping for a diversion.

This shit is fucking priceless.

Loved when Higgins is asking about why Cohen didn't turn over the boxes of files he's getting his records from...and Cohen is trying to tell them him he did, they were seized in the raid and returned by the Feds after they looked through them...and the dude is still fucking clueless as to why he has the boxes.

How the hell do some of these morons even tie their shoes?

I think they use velcro tape.

The focus is understandably on the hush money, Wikileaks and so on, but I thought the exchange about the valuation of Trump's golf courses was illuminating. It's that kind of "little" thing that will cause everything to fall apart.

[odeon]

Also Al... the Green New Deal is a proposal that is meant to take its time... not strictly enforce asap.

Didn't you hear about the 2020 proposal that other countries were planning 7 years ago or so? The idea was to make going green initiatives to be completed around that frame of time... places like San Fransisco, Vancouver, Oslo, and other cities using alternative energy to improve the climate, etc, etc.

If it's proposed early, I don't see why it's such a big deal to bitch about it.

The republicans are lying about what the Green New Deal means. Nobody's going to ban air traffic or cars or anything else. It's not what the proposal is about at all. But everything AOC stands for is a threat to the republicans and they fight her with everything they've got.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Gen, not going to respond specifically to your posts other than to say that you made some great points.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Agree with Odeon. The Green New Deal is a rational response to many of the issues facing the US and the world right now. That is why it is so dangerous to some.

[odeon]

And meanwhile, Mr Art of the Deal failed to close another deal.

[Al Swearegen]

I just love the live entertainment today. I love it how the republicans spend their slots whining while the democrats ask all the fun questions. All this while the main character is off to Vietnam, desperately hoping for a diversion.

Or....you know, on a planned diplomatic trip like every President who ever existed makes and will make. You mean that don't you? You think he gives a shit about Cohen? Why? Cohen is a proven liar and has lied under oath. There is not a thing that he could do or say that will restore his credibility. What has Trump to be concerned about?