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First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« on: January 17, 2017, 04:04:04 PM »
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 06:04:21 PM »
It's just a political stunt to try and reinforce that Obama is all liberal etc as well as dampening the triumph of Trump letting Assange off, if he does.  Though the press will just say he is being rewarded for the hideous crime of exposing Clinton's crimes and because Assange is a Russian agent.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 09:24:30 PM »
You think Trump is going to let Assange off?

I read that Assange agreed to be extradited to the USA in return for Chelsea Manning being let off. That would be quite the coup for freedom of information if they both got off.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 09:42:37 PM »
Quote from: Pyraxis on January 17, 2017, 09:24:30 PM
You think Trump is going to let Assange off?

I read that Assange agreed to be extradited to the USA in return for Chelsea Manning being let off. That would be quite the coup for freedom of information if they both got off.
The article made a good point that it weakens the case against a publisher when the source is pardoned.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 01:17:07 AM »
She was not pardoned, though.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 02:20:56 AM »
It's absolutely disgusting how much worse the USA treats its whistleblowers than its child abusers and sexual predators.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 06:15:58 AM »
Quote from: odeon on January 18, 2017, 01:17:07 AM
She was not pardoned, though.
Fair point. Commutation, yes. Though still agree it weakens the case against Assange.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 07:14:41 AM »
It's funny; the day before it happened I was talking with the boyfriend about this; he brought up Snowden, I countered with Manning, frankly on basis of need.  Chelsea manning needed this more than Edward Snowden did.  He's OK.  He's OK in Russia, but he's OK.  Chelsea Manning is not OK where she is right now.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 11:10:47 AM »
Yes, I think it was the right thing to do.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 12:04:59 PM »
He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so.  Obama is scum. 
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 12:10:52 PM »
I find it funny how Obama dismissed Snowden as a hacker...I think hackers are often incredibly intelligent. I admire great intelligence, esp. when a good heart goes with it.

I don't think he got very far though, people don't care that they're being watched and hacked into. :/
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 02:20:12 PM »
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on January 18, 2017, 12:04:59 PM
He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so.  Obama is scum.

You're a real humanitarian.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 04:10:16 PM »
Quote from: PMS Elle on January 18, 2017, 07:14:41 AM
It's funny; the day before it happened I was talking with the boyfriend about this; he brought up Snowden, I countered with Manning, frankly on basis of need.  Chelsea manning needed this more than Edward Snowden did.  He's OK.  He's OK in Russia, but he's OK.  Chelsea Manning is not OK where she is right now.

I think it's more like pandering to the LBGTQ community.
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2017, 01:23:03 AM »
Pandering? FFS, she's been locked up for what? 7 years?
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Re: First, Chelsea Manning, will Edward Snowden be next??
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2017, 03:30:37 PM »
Quote from: odeon on January 18, 2017, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on January 18, 2017, 12:04:59 PM
He tried to kill himself and probably would've ended up doing so.  Obama is scum.

You're a real humanitarian.

Don't think I've ever claimed to be one have I fuckwit?  That being said, I'm a much better one than you as I actually care about humans in general, where as you base your caring on race and gender as well as who you do or do not criticise.   :wanker: 
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