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The Sophist Method
« on: June 24, 2007, 04:00:04 PM »
I was always under the impression that the Sophist Method, in modern times is considered a bad mothod of debate.

Sophistry

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2007, 04:42:37 PM »
A helpfull list of Logical Fallacies

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2007, 05:22:00 PM »
As the word is currently used, it isn't considered a
reasonable form of debate. But, by the original meaning,
it is very much exactly how one is taught to do so. Using
every tool available to win an argument, ranging from
some emotional appeals, to the logic itself, to some
really minute details, which seem to have nothing to
do with the argument at hand - rather just improving
one's appearance.


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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2008, 12:06:03 AM »
Woah Soph can mean a lot of words!
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2008, 05:23:24 PM »
Woah Soph can mean a lot of words!

THIS thread has officially changed title.


More fitting to what this site is about anyhow.
Though, we do need another thread.

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2013, 07:23:23 PM »
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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2013, 07:10:19 AM »
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Of course a person who is better at arguing their position can be more successful at arguing their case, against equally valid claims or even better claims.
I do think that lying, misrepresenting facts or making bogus inferences, is pretty weak.

BUT....

Making your opponent seem weak or flawed?
Intimidating them?
Using big words?
Questioning their motives?
Getting them to agree with you?
Bringing to bear their faults and prejudices (if relevant to your argument)?

Any of these types of things are all good. If they come up or you seek them out to get the best result from your argument, all good. so long as you do not do those three things i mentioned above.
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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2013, 11:04:29 AM »
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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2013, 09:32:22 AM »
I was always under the impression that the Sophist Method, in modern times is considered a bad mothod of debate.

Sophistry

I think it's still acceptable, if the parties involved are willing to accommodate subjective experience.

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2016, 11:59:36 AM »
U misspelled words

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2016, 03:29:08 PM »
"U"?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2016, 08:30:37 PM »
This better “You misspelled words" happy now

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2016, 08:31:19 PM »
That is sarcasm right

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Re: The Sophist Method
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2016, 04:55:22 AM »
Irony, actually.
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