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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2016, 03:00:12 PM »
Faster? China has relocated a population the size of the entire US in a very short amount of time. They're not done. Again, pay attention.

it's estimated China will urbanize 300 million people currently living in rural areas, resulting in 70% of the total population living in cities by 2025.

I wonder how much is really voluntary and why the big push for it.  Where I live is way too crowded for my tastes but it's nothing compared to these places and moving to them would not be something I would just do if asked nicely
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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2016, 05:02:17 PM »
Faster? China has relocated a population the size of the entire US in a very short amount of time. They're not done. Again, pay attention.

it's estimated China will urbanize 300 million people currently living in rural areas, resulting in 70% of the total population living in cities by 2025.

I wonder how much is really voluntary and why the big push for it.  Where I live is way too crowded for my tastes but it's nothing compared to these places and moving to them would not be something I would just do if asked nicely
From what's been read, a fair amount of it is forced, and the rest is sort of force by no other choice due to circumstance. The bones of China's communities are government controlled, so when the government offices, banks, schools, and hospitals are all moved away the only thing left remaining are residents. Business are more likely to accept the government incentives to move shop because a large portion of their clientele has been moved, the remaining follow because there's nothing left, no infrastructure, no employment, no community. Some evections are completely forced to clear out locations where new development is occurring. As for the why of the matter, or even how it will pan out, it's hard to say. What China has done, and is doing, is completely unprecedented. Would have to assume economics is the driving factor. Urbanization is drawing a lot of foreign investment, while generating a large viable working middle class out of past peasant farming communities. From the figures read, it appears China intends to reserve 30% of the population as rural, which is probably all they need to sustain farming, and less farming competition will also mean better incomes for the average farmer. In addition to urban development, China also has an initiative to improve living conditions in the rural areas which will remain, by building new housing, installing sewer treatment facilities, clean running water and electricity, in many poor communities which previously had none. Again, why. It could all be about making money. It could be about minimizing poverty. It could be to maintain their status within the UN by complying with UN enforcement of global human rights. It could be the vision of a great mind, who hasn't bothered to tell the rest of the world why. Maybe it's a big power trip, or a combination of those things. Maybe they're just gearing up to lead the world.

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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2016, 05:12:21 PM »
The State thinks you should move to Nowhere City, Comrade. :police:
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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2016, 09:15:47 PM »
Looking more now at the Yujiapu Financial District, mentioned in the first post. China's future Manhattan began construction in 2009. Still largely uninhabited with areas still in construction, the district is open for business and is, at the moment, truly a fantastic ghost of a city. The district’s free-trade zone status, gained in 2014, attracted 6,000 companies from finance, law, accounting and trade to register for business, generating an output of 7.5 billion yuan and expected to quadruple its GDP by 2017.



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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2016, 10:29:12 AM »
A city that big without a real history,  and built mostly at one time by the state seems just wrong.
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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2016, 12:35:57 PM »
It all seems wrong on some level, maybe because it's never been done before. Then again it also seems wildly brilliant, and like watching history being made.

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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2016, 01:49:55 PM »
Nanhui New City, also mentioned in the first post, is located at the tip of the peninsula between the Yangtze and the Qiantang rivers, on the Hangzhou Bay. It is approximately 60 kilometers southeast of downtown Shanghai. A major portion of the site was reclaimed from the sea. The city was slated to become a "mini-Hong Kong", but although real estate developments sold quickly, people have been reluctant to move in. To help vitalize the city, eight university campuses have been built on the west side of Nanhui New City, bringing in more than 100,000 students.

An aerial view of the development:

The full scope of the plan


Housing developments

Technical Center

"Barcode Hall"

City admistration entrance

Maritime museum.
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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2016, 04:45:54 PM »
Americans criticize China for its urban development plans? Well, where's YOUR urban development plan, America? That crumbling infrastructure isn't going to fix itself! :zoinks:

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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2016, 05:50:25 PM »
Americans criticize China for its urban development plans? Well, where's YOUR urban development plan, America? That crumbling infrastructure isn't going to fix itself! :zoinks:
"China has been building the equivalent of almost one university per week. In terms of producing graduates, China has overtaken the United States and the combined university systems of European Union countries, and has shown the world that it is possible to simultaneously raise quantity and quality in schools. China ranks third for attracting international students, and is expected to soon overtake the UK and the US for first place. China is using international university partnerships to cement its regional and global position, and an increasing number of universities from outside of China are establishing a presence in China. "
http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20160303231850597
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35776555
http://www.sinograduate.com/foreign-universities-china

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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2016, 10:30:39 PM »
Chenggong District is the chief zone for the expansion of the city of Kunming, almost a 20-minute drive away, currently considered a ghost city. It is the site of the new Kunming City Hall, and new campuses for Yunnan University and Yunnan Normal University. Central Kunming is overcrowded, so expected to fill quickly, and while the new district is intended to serve other purposes, the majority of the expanded portion of the city appears to be massive housing blocks. Public train systems connecting to the existing city will make Chenggong a low carbon district.














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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2016, 01:08:12 AM »
Yunnan Normal University? How is that different from the other one?

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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2016, 04:38:43 PM »
Yunnan Normal University? How is that different from the other one?

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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2016, 04:58:10 PM »
Thank you, Jack. I had never heard that term before.
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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2016, 06:57:31 PM »
Tianducheng is a town in the suburbs of Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province, China, and construction began in 2007. Originally planned as a city for around 10,000 inhabitants, the current population of Tianducheng is estimated at around 2,000 people, many of whom are working on a nearby French-themed amusement park. The city is referred to as fake Paris, for obvious reasons.





The landscaping around the mock Eifel Tower is al large vegetable garden.




The French inspired architecture is an interesting contrast against the boxy high rises.



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Re: Ghost Cities of China
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2016, 07:32:42 AM »
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