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Took the words right out of my mouth
« on: July 12, 2016, 11:24:39 AM »
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2016, 02:15:19 PM »
Stop calling 17 million people stupid?

Lots more out there that are, in my mind. Stupid and/or uneducated and ill informed. As for the Brexit vote, some voted leave and other voted remain, quite a few of them without knowing what they voted for or why. Which is why it's so scary, and which is why I think Cameron made a huge mistake.
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 04:06:00 PM »
That guy's funny. :laugh:
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 06:19:25 PM »
Some of the people who voted leave did so as a protest vote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

They must be shitting themselves now. To them I say  :congrats: for fucking the UK.
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2016, 03:25:53 AM »
Well, Boris didn't think Leave would win either.

Fucking hilarious that he's Foreign Minister now.
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2016, 05:29:01 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 14, 2016, 03:25:53 AM
Well, Boris didn't think Leave would win either.

Fucking hilarious that he's Foreign Minister now.

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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 01:22:53 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 12, 2016, 02:15:19 PM
Stop calling 17 million people stupid?

Lots more out there that are, in my mind. Stupid and/or uneducated and ill informed. As for the Brexit vote, some voted leave and other voted remain, quite a few of them without knowing what they voted for or why. Which is why it's so scary, and which is why I think Cameron made a huge mistake.

You're certainly one of the however many.  You have no independent though at all.  The same thing happens in an election every 5 years.  Lots of people knew what they were voting for with regards to leaving, to do something about immigration.  Sure, they might be disappointed but now there's no EU scapegoat, so those people will want answers.  Controlling the outrageous numbers was more than enough of a reason to vote to leave and uncertainty was more than enough reason to vote to stay.  People can make the right decisions without knowing why they did.  We just happened to make the correct one on this instance. 
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2016, 01:24:25 PM »
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2016, 01:28:50 PM »
Quote from: Some_Bloke on July 13, 2016, 06:19:25 PM
Some of the people who voted leave did so as a protest vote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

They must be shitting themselves now. To them I say  :congrats: for fucking the UK.

 :blah:

Really, that's a story?  A couple of alleged 'leave' voters who now regret it?  They didn't realise leave would win?  They are fucking morons or most likely they are remain voters who are lying.  It's fucking over, so get over it.  Time to move on. 
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2016, 04:53:07 PM »
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 15, 2016, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 12, 2016, 02:15:19 PM
Stop calling 17 million people stupid?

Lots more out there that are, in my mind. Stupid and/or uneducated and ill informed. As for the Brexit vote, some voted leave and other voted remain, quite a few of them without knowing what they voted for or why. Which is why it's so scary, and which is why I think Cameron made a huge mistake.

You're certainly one of the however many.  You have no independent though at all.  The same thing happens in an election every 5 years.  Lots of people knew what they were voting for with regards to leaving, to do something about immigration.  Sure, they might be disappointed but now there's no EU scapegoat, so those people will want answers.  Controlling the outrageous numbers was more than enough of a reason to vote to leave and uncertainty was more than enough reason to vote to stay.  People can make the right decisions without knowing why they did.  We just happened to make the correct one on this instance.

And you proved again why democracy is such a bad idea. You'll have a vote about the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, and then vote for the wrong option for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2016, 02:41:42 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 15, 2016, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 15, 2016, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 12, 2016, 02:15:19 PM
Stop calling 17 million people stupid?

Lots more out there that are, in my mind. Stupid and/or uneducated and ill informed. As for the Brexit vote, some voted leave and other voted remain, quite a few of them without knowing what they voted for or why. Which is why it's so scary, and which is why I think Cameron made a huge mistake.

You're certainly one of the however many.  You have no independent though at all.  The same thing happens in an election every 5 years.  Lots of people knew what they were voting for with regards to leaving, to do something about immigration.  Sure, they might be disappointed but now there's no EU scapegoat, so those people will want answers.  Controlling the outrageous numbers was more than enough of a reason to vote to leave and uncertainty was more than enough reason to vote to stay.  People can make the right decisions without knowing why they did.  We just happened to make the correct one on this instance.

And you proved again why democracy is such a bad idea. You'll have a vote about the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, and then vote for the wrong option for the wrong reasons.

That's your opinion.  This has nothing to do with you anyway, so like Pie said, fuck off to North Korea.
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2016, 05:55:47 AM »
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 17, 2016, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 15, 2016, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 15, 2016, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 12, 2016, 02:15:19 PM
Stop calling 17 million people stupid?

Lots more out there that are, in my mind. Stupid and/or uneducated and ill informed. As for the Brexit vote, some voted leave and other voted remain, quite a few of them without knowing what they voted for or why. Which is why it's so scary, and which is why I think Cameron made a huge mistake.

You're certainly one of the however many.  You have no independent though at all.  The same thing happens in an election every 5 years.  Lots of people knew what they were voting for with regards to leaving, to do something about immigration.  Sure, they might be disappointed but now there's no EU scapegoat, so those people will want answers.  Controlling the outrageous numbers was more than enough of a reason to vote to leave and uncertainty was more than enough reason to vote to stay.  People can make the right decisions without knowing why they did.  We just happened to make the correct one on this instance.

And you proved again why democracy is such a bad idea. You'll have a vote about the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, and then vote for the wrong option for the wrong reasons.

That's your opinion.  This has nothing to do with you anyway, so like Pie said, fuck off to North Korea.

It's got a lot to do with me, actually.

The problem with a dictatorship, of course, is that it's an even worse idea since power will always corrupt, regardless of constitution.
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 04:02:18 PM »
Quote from: odeon on July 19, 2016, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 17, 2016, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 15, 2016, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 15, 2016, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 12, 2016, 02:15:19 PM
Stop calling 17 million people stupid?

Lots more out there that are, in my mind. Stupid and/or uneducated and ill informed. As for the Brexit vote, some voted leave and other voted remain, quite a few of them without knowing what they voted for or why. Which is why it's so scary, and which is why I think Cameron made a huge mistake.

You're certainly one of the however many.  You have no independent though at all.  The same thing happens in an election every 5 years.  Lots of people knew what they were voting for with regards to leaving, to do something about immigration.  Sure, they might be disappointed but now there's no EU scapegoat, so those people will want answers.  Controlling the outrageous numbers was more than enough of a reason to vote to leave and uncertainty was more than enough reason to vote to stay.  People can make the right decisions without knowing why they did.  We just happened to make the correct one on this instance.

And you proved again why democracy is such a bad idea. You'll have a vote about the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, and then vote for the wrong option for the wrong reasons.

That's your opinion.  This has nothing to do with you anyway, so like Pie said, fuck off to North Korea.

It's got a lot to do with me, actually.

The problem with a dictatorship, of course, is that it's an even worse idea since power will always corrupt, regardless of constitution.

Not really your home country. 

Yes power will, that's why the people need more power.  No use fretting about it when they exercise those rights and make a choice the powerful do not like. 
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Fatality waits in the wings
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Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2016, 08:23:04 PM »
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 21, 2016, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 19, 2016, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 17, 2016, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 15, 2016, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: benjimanbreeg on July 15, 2016, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: odeon on July 12, 2016, 02:15:19 PM
Stop calling 17 million people stupid?

Lots more out there that are, in my mind. Stupid and/or uneducated and ill informed. As for the Brexit vote, some voted leave and other voted remain, quite a few of them without knowing what they voted for or why. Which is why it's so scary, and which is why I think Cameron made a huge mistake.

You're certainly one of the however many.  You have no independent though at all.  The same thing happens in an election every 5 years.  Lots of people knew what they were voting for with regards to leaving, to do something about immigration.  Sure, they might be disappointed but now there's no EU scapegoat, so those people will want answers.  Controlling the outrageous numbers was more than enough of a reason to vote to leave and uncertainty was more than enough reason to vote to stay.  People can make the right decisions without knowing why they did.  We just happened to make the correct one on this instance.

And you proved again why democracy is such a bad idea. You'll have a vote about the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, and then vote for the wrong option for the wrong reasons.

That's your opinion.  This has nothing to do with you anyway, so like Pie said, fuck off to North Korea.

It's got a lot to do with me, actually.

The problem with a dictatorship, of course, is that it's an even worse idea since power will always corrupt, regardless of constitution.

Not really your home country. 

Yes power will, that's why the people need more power.  No use fretting about it when they exercise those rights and make a choice the powerful do not like.

Agreed.

I object to those that say variations of "The people do not know what is best for them"
Think of how many times that mentality has been used to detrimental effects.
The people that make claims to know better than "the people" rarely do. It is usually just a away of signalling a position of superior reason, morality or spirituality to others. In its best form it is annoying snobbery and in its worst, hateful demagoguery
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Re: Took the words right out of my mouth
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2016, 12:35:12 AM »
It's not about people not knowing what's good for them, exactly, but rather with them not having the necessary skills or knowledge. The idea of them being able to make an informed choice is absurd, a lot of the time. Yet it's what they are asked to do.

Of course, some people have additional problems--they might, for example, be unable to manage their own households and so find themselves chronically in debt, yet they are asked to vote in what would essentially require a university-level course in global finance.
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