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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #240 on: June 29, 2016, 04:20:16 PM »
No I didn't.

Now back to what I said. It is your go-to insult isn't it? You called me crazy, Pea mentally ill and  FourAceDeal mentally ill. It is your default insult.

It seems quite blatantly obvious that when you disagree with someone's opinion, you call them mentally ill. I do get the rationale behind it too.

In the same way you described all the Brexiters as being racists (yes the whole 17 million or whatever), it is a great way or instantly and uncritically delegitimising any point that someone else may have that differs from yours.

Its far more likely that there is racists and not in the majority of either Brexiters and Bremains, but in both ranks. It is also far more likely that mental illness is NOT the reason that people have differing opinions but because your opinions are not the bastion of intellect and reason, but simply run of the mill opinions. Much like most people.

Feel free to keep calling everyone that disagrees with you mentally ill, it is obviously something you are accustomed to doing. By all means call half a population racist if it makes you feel better. I was simply pointing out something I noticed. I do not much care that you do so, just pointing out a pattern.

I called FourAceDeal crazy? I honestly don't remember. Could you show me where, please?
I suggested Pea might be mentally ill, and with good reason. Again, nothing to do with disagreeing with me, and everything to do with the content of his magnificently misjudged video.
I think you"re crazy. Not for disagreeing with me, but because of your behaviour in general. The way you constantly start long term feuds over extremely minor issues, and then refuse to let things drop. They tend to last 3 months :laugh: It's possible that you're not crazy, and are just suffering from a major personality disorder. However, I consider mental illness to be a more charitable explanation than personality disorder.

I have never called all Brexiteers racist.



So Les. Quite a few accusation, but there not very true. Are they :laugh:

:laugh: Aren't they? :laugh:


Is he mentally ill?


Is it possible that Pea is FourAceDeal? Sorry to FAD if that''s not the case.


Fucking awful :thumbdn:

Genuinely feel devastated :'(

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry >:(

 :hug:

Could you vote from where you are?


I put off registering until the last minute, and when I finally got around to register, I couldn't. Turned out that because I hadn't been registered to vote in N.Ireland, I couldn't easily register to vote from here >:( It was way too late to do anything about it. Doesn't matter now though (emo) Leave won by quite a decent margin.

All my friends living here voted though. Obviously they voted remain. Would have been pretty dumb of them to have voted leave :laugh: Also, I think I'd have fallen out with any who voted leave :viking:


One of my friends and his fiance are talking about maybe moving back home because of the vote. They have a young daughter too. I get to play at being an auntie, and they're an awesome family. I'd be completely sick if they left :bigcry:
Hopefully they're just overreacting, and they won't have to leave.

I'm just in the foulest of moods at the moment :angrydance: I still can't quite believe the country voted to do this. Feel such utter contempt for England and Wales right now >:( Can't help feeling this was a vote for racism, intolerance, and isolationism :hitler: Really hope I'm wrong though :(

Back to you

Here's the full quote. Not the edited one you posted :facepalm2:


This video seems to be all about me :dunno: He's even calling me by my real name on a Youtube video :-\

It's sweet that he's "not criticized me for being lesbian," and "not really criticized me for being Scottish" :laugh:

Is he mentally ill?


Is it possible that Pea is FourAceDeal? Sorry to FAD if that''s not the case.

Clearly, this was a post about Pea.
I never came close to accusing FAD of being mentally ill. I had no reason to do so.

So, it seems that you lied when you accused me of saying FAD is mentally ill :thumbdn:

Even by your standards Les, that is pitiful. It reeks of intellectual dishonesty :thumbdn:






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Can't help feeling this was a vote for racism, intolerance, and isolationism :hitler: Really hope I'm wrong though :(

I fully stand by that comment, and believe it to be true now, just as much as I did when I posted it.

However, that's very different to saying I "described all the Brexiters as being racists (yes the whole 17 million or whatever.")

At no point have I described all 17 million brexiteers as racists. Clearly not every brexiteer is a racist.


So Les, it looks like at best, you were completely wrong, and are desperately trying to quote posts that vaguely back your false claims :thumbdn:
At worst, you were just downright lying :thumbdn:

It's hard to believe that you are genuinely stupid enough to really believe that my posts accused FAD of being mentally ill, or that I accused every brexiteer of being a racist. If I am unable to believe that your mistakes are down to stupidity, then I am left with no option but to conclude that they are down to dishonesty.

Not cool Les. Not cool at all :thumbdn:

Hmm....I call bulletin.

Yes you asked whether Pea was mental ill and directly after whether FAD was Pea.

If Pea is mentally ill and FAD is Pea...

Yep it's you default. Both guy thought different to you so therefore both are alike and mentally ill.

No huge leaps, it's in your own words

You think racism, isolationism and intolerance is why Brexiters voted to leave....but your opinion is NOT that Brexiters are racist?

Now who is intellectually dishonest?

Out of interest how many Brexiters were there?

She proved you wrong. Admit it.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #241 on: June 29, 2016, 04:25:17 PM »
You really don't understand what the working class actually are.  You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.  The working class have had enough of their wages being smashed.  I live here and have worked with as well as for the working class of the past and present.  You live in a dream world Butterflies.  The result speaks for itself.  Live with it.

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You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.

Why? Technically I had as much right to vote as you :-\

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You really don't understand what the working class actually are.

Yes I do. I smell them every time I use public transport :P

Seriously, it's you who doesn't understand what the working class are. You think that being working class means racist, ignorant, and uneducated. This is not what working class is. That is an insult to the working class.

Okay, "can't" was the wrong word, it's just a bit rich. 

No I do not, that's what you're putting them down as but saying they aren't the working class because they're "racist" etc.  A lot of the working class are like that, well most of the country are ignorant and just have selected education.  It's the people who think they are so well educated and are so smug because they think they know so much better, but in reality they are just as naive and oblivious and are doing the work of the corporate machine for them.

"This country has had enough of experts."

God you are stupid.

I'm talking about people like you, you fucking moron, and rich students.  Why did you quote me on something I didn't even write?  Are you that naive and thick that you don't realise 'experts' can be corrupt and funnily enough, wrong?  What actual 'experts' are you talking about?  You are actually too insecure and retarded to make your own decisions aren't you?   

It's a quote that fit, because you're not letting facts get in your way.

God you will suffer.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #242 on: June 29, 2016, 04:27:21 PM »
You really don't understand what the working class actually are.  You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.  The working class have had enough of their wages being smashed.  I live here and have worked with as well as for the working class of the past and present.  You live in a dream world Butterflies.  The result speaks for itself.  Live with it.

You're in for a surprise, Benji. Brexit will hurt the "working class" far more than the any other "class" but unfortunately you and your likes have yet to realise it. I'm betting you will, though, since a recession is very much character-building in that respect.

I'm also betting that even now, a mere two days after the fact, enough people who voted Leave have woken up to spot the first couple of the many broken promises and outright lies, and a very different result would be the outcome if another referendum was held.

And finally, while Merkel and a few others think there is no reason to be particularly nasty, they are a minority. I suspect any deal the UK is likely to get will either severely limit access to the European market or force the UK to agree with every major regulation in place, meaning that in reality, Brexis will have achieved very little beyond the UK losing its right to vote.

The working class were far better off before we were forced into the "Common Market" and then tricked into staying with the first referendum.  Most working class people could work hard and save for a property.

You don't know shit.  It's obvious to anyone that there would be negative consequences to begin with and we are suffering like we've actually left Europe already because of it, but not paying that £20,000 a minute will help this country massively.  If people were shown the real facts and educated on the past and how we've been taken in this far without being asked, we'd have voted "leave" in a landslide.  You want to talk about lies?  All the endless tripe and propaganda from your heroes Cameron and boy George.  When's WWIII starting?  Apparently voting out was what ISIS wanted?  Osbourne was going to launch an emergency budget!  Sure, the powers that be will punish the working class for making this decision.  But why punish the people?  How about starting to tax Google properly?  How about stop spending money on sickening wars?  Or perfecting nukes which is basically against International Law?  We had a "recession" while we were in the EU.  The powers that be can do what they like and get away with it.  What lies are you talking about anyway?  Please don't tell me it's about the NHS thing. 

I'd imagine we will just sign a deal that pretty much means we're in the EU but not on paper, and if that happens it will wake people up further to the corruption we are dealing with.  We don't make any decisions in the EU anyway, the unelected crooks and their friends do.

Fucking hell you are naive. In the words of EU politicians, you are back to 0. The only way you will access to the Single Market, which, in spite of what you morons think, is the key to your country's economy, is by going back on pretty much everything Boris, Nigel & Co promised you, but without voting rights. It will cost you more than the EU ever did.

Idiot.

Aww, you listen to EU politicians.  Our country is financially ruined, the EU relies on us, hence why they are so angry.  Or you think they're so angry cause they care so much about the UK's working people?   :hahaha:   All we have is a false economy based on mass immigration.  We have been monumentally fucked for years, but the media lets Osbourne and other 'experts' off because they suck the right dick.  You're so thick, naive and tragic that I feel genuinely sorry for you.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3551419/Osborne-overshoots-borrowing-target-74bn-budget-deficit-financial-year.html

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3551419/Osborne-overshoots-borrowing-target-74bn-budget-deficit-financial-year.html
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #243 on: June 29, 2016, 04:33:09 PM »
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/25/brexit-live-emergency-meetings-eu-uk-leave-vote?page=with:block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48#block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48


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The Labour frontbencher, Seema Malhotra, is speaking just ahead of Jeremy Corbyn’s speech in central London today.

The unshared prosperity, she adds, has been an important driver for how people felt about membership of the EU. But there are other concerns too around community cohesion.

She reads out a message from a teacher in her constituency who spoke of an incident that occurred after the referendum result. The teacher was escorting a group of young children when they were racially abused by members of the public.

They shouted: “Why are there only 10 white faces in this class? Why are you not educating the English?

Children aged six were crying and saying that they were going to have to leave the country, according to the teacher.
Malhotra says that people are in need of reassurance.


What a scummy, piece of shit, country we've become :soapbox:

Personally, I like my country and the people it contains.   You are free to leave at anytime.

I hear that attitude a lot from people like you. Personally, I find it a bit vile :thumbdn: Why should somebody be expected to leave their country, just because they don't like the direction it's going in? Surely it would be best if they stayed and tried to change things.

Anyway, I've already left :P I live in Budapest, and after the result of the referendum, I've never been more relieved.

I hold an Irish passport too, and from now on, I am referring to myself as Irish :green: I would be embarrassed to be associated with the Little Englanders who voted to leave.

You really should read what you write.   :facepalm2:

What can I say. I've always hated the attitude, "If you don't like the direction of the country, you"re free to leave." Especially coming from somebody who appears to have just voted to make it significantly harder to leave the country :-\

Says the Irish passport holder living in Budapest.  This isn't even your vote.

I had as much right to vote as you. This vote probably affected those living in the EU more than the people living in Britain. I wasn't able to vote though, because of a self-imposed voter registration fuck-up.

Your comment does kinda show the true nature of the Brexiteer. Only Little Englanders should be allowed to vote on something that effects everybody :thumbdn:
Let's stop blacks and Asians from voting too. After all, they're not true Brits :zombiefuck:

Why do you keep parroting phrases like "Little Englander"?  There's nothing that's made England more little than dissolving our sovereignty and trying to change from a state/country to a province.  You only want people who you agree with to be able to vote.  You also want Scotland to be Independent from the UK?!

Scotland wants independence from the UK, because they don't want a part of the stupidity.

Idiot.

Scotland tried to win 'independence' in 2014, and then there was talk of another referendum after last years election when the SNP wiped out Labour.  Sturgeon has been waiting for an opportunity to get another referendum. 
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #244 on: June 29, 2016, 04:34:36 PM »

Fucking awful :thumbdn:

Genuinely feel devastated :'(

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry >:(

Yeah, my colleagues in London spent most of the time cursing when I talked to them this morning. It's a disaster.

I don't think most of the people who voted know how bad this is.

That's because London is in a bubble and has no idea what happens in the real world.  The backbone of the country has spoken!  Democracy has one, the corporate machine has taken a smashing but will punish the working class for making the wrong choice.

Actually I think it's rather the other way around. The real world is not just some shithole in Wales these days, like it or not. Isolationism doesn't work.

See look at you, you arrogant cunt.  Your retarded heroes like Damon Albarn and his flock are isolationists, and they do not tolerate and accept democratic results that go against them.  You're allowed to have an opinion, as long as it's the right one.  London is a mess, it is being socially cleansed and the victims of that have bitten back.

You are the one who will end up with a recession, and as one of the "working class", you will suffer far worse than the rest.

And London? Yeah, London will suffer, too, and mostly because of cunts like you in forgotten-about shitholes somewhere northwest. Remember this in a year or two, when nothing you hoped would change will have changed but a lot of the other stuff you and your fellow idiots never thought of will have.

Idiot.

Aww, parroting what you heard in the media today?  As I said, the establishment and co can do what they like, they can punish the country when the bankers etc/'experts' fuck the world up or they can punish the country when they make a decision that doesn't help the corporate machine.  Some of us care about more than just money though.  We would rather die on our feet that live on our knees.  Cunts like you wouldn't understand principles though. 

The people of London will suffer sure, but your heroes will quickly find a way to fuck the people over and make more money. 

I've already mentioned numerous ways of getting our country back on track financially.  The 'experts' don't seem to keen on mentioning the billions and billions we've wasted on wars and perfecting nukes though.

Links, please.

And this vote was never about wars and nukes. It was to some considerable extent about what to do with all that money you are spending on membership fees. Now, would you mind telling the class what your guys promised  that money would go to? And would you then tell us what they told you after the vote?

Would you also like to tell the class about the Single Market and its importance to your country? And then, perhaps, parroting what the EU leaders told your country about the conditions for access to that market?

Perhaps you could then be so kind as to explain the implications of this.

Basically, the UK is now going to have to negotiate a deal that can never be as good as the one as Cameron had. And there are a lot of politicians in the EU that will laugh at you because they are angry. This affects them, too, sure, but they are comparatively better off than you are.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #245 on: June 29, 2016, 04:36:28 PM »
It's also worth noting that there is a petition floating around about London leaving, too.

That's just another indication how the London based media are getting hysterical and desperate.  London is a bubble.  It is out of touch with the realities of the rest of the country.

Incidentally...  the rest of the UK would secretly like Lonodon to fuck off too. 

But that aside, this is all piss and smoke.  It's nothing but a childish reaction of the Blairite centre left.

It's an indication of people being pissed off and knowing they will be paying for other people's mistakes.

You don't understand that would have been plenty of people voting leave knowing full well that it would/could cost them a lot financially?  You don't understand that new strategies have to be made and just maybe things could turn out for the better?  Or do you just believe everything your TV says?  Also, maybe not everything is about purely money.

:rofl:

It will be, when you don't have it.

But in the mean time, what are those new strategies? Tell me. We all need a laugh.

I got through a "recession" on very low wages, sure i'll cope.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #246 on: June 29, 2016, 04:38:14 PM »
You really don't understand what the working class actually are.  You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.  The working class have had enough of their wages being smashed.  I live here and have worked with as well as for the working class of the past and present.  You live in a dream world Butterflies.  The result speaks for itself.  Live with it.

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You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.

Why? Technically I had as much right to vote as you :-\

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You really don't understand what the working class actually are.

Yes I do. I smell them every time I use public transport :P

Seriously, it's you who doesn't understand what the working class are. You think that being working class means racist, ignorant, and uneducated. This is not what working class is. That is an insult to the working class.

Okay, "can't" was the wrong word, it's just a bit rich. 

No I do not, that's what you're putting them down as but saying they aren't the working class because they're "racist" etc.  A lot of the working class are like that, well most of the country are ignorant and just have selected education.  It's the people who think they are so well educated and are so smug because they think they know so much better, but in reality they are just as naive and oblivious and are doing the work of the corporate machine for them.

"This country has had enough of experts."

God you are stupid.

I'm talking about people like you, you fucking moron, and rich students.  Why did you quote me on something I didn't even write?  Are you that naive and thick that you don't realise 'experts' can be corrupt and funnily enough, wrong?  What actual 'experts' are you talking about?  You are actually too insecure and retarded to make your own decisions aren't you?   

It's a quote that fit, because you're not letting facts get in your way.

God you will suffer.

Please enlighten me with these facts? 
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Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #247 on: June 29, 2016, 04:38:36 PM »

Fucking awful :thumbdn:

Genuinely feel devastated :'(

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry >:(

Yeah, my colleagues in London spent most of the time cursing when I talked to them this morning. It's a disaster.

I don't think most of the people who voted know how bad this is.

That's because London is in a bubble and has no idea what happens in the real world.  The backbone of the country has spoken!  Democracy has one, the corporate machine has taken a smashing but will punish the working class for making the wrong choice.

Actually I think it's rather the other way around. The real world is not just some shithole in Wales these days, like it or not. Isolationism doesn't work.

See look at you, you arrogant cunt.  Your retarded heroes like Damon Albarn and his flock are isolationists, and they do not tolerate and accept democratic results that go against them.  You're allowed to have an opinion, as long as it's the right one.  London is a mess, it is being socially cleansed and the victims of that have bitten back.

As I mentioned above, it seems pretty easy to see millions voted a specific way, to say they all are bigots and/or stupid seems ironically either bigoted and/or stupid.
There were pros and cons. People chose what they were prepared to accept and voted accordingly.  That more people placed importance on leaving than Odeon and Butterflies did is neither here nor there. It was their choice to make and they made it.
This whole Wales shithole comment sounds a little bit pissy.

The sad truth is that this is an issue that should never had been voted on because it's beyond the morons in the shitholes in Wales. Fear-mongering won, not facts, best witnessed by the Leave campaign's leaders nowhere close to offering a single practical way to solve the mess they were instrumental in creating. Seriously. When did they provide a single workable plan? They've already backed on most of the promises the made, and for good reason. Invoking Article 50 will be the undoing of the union, and the union's economy.

So yes, of course it's a pissy comment, but it's a comparatively mild reaction. There are far worse.

God, you really are a complete imbecile and Joseph Stalin's wet dream.  'Please save us the ones that have destroyed the country, we're too stupid to make decisions for ourselves'  :'(   Try reading some George Orwell novels. 

Oh yeah, because your hero Cameron and co didn't try to use fear, claiming there would be WWIII if we left or we would be voting in ISIS's interests, and the way the media used Jo Cox's death.

Idiot. Cameron was never my hero but he, unlike Boris et al, does have a point. WWIII is news to me, though. Care to elaborate?

But here's the thing: I know I'm right and will be here in a year or two when you will recall the good old days when you had money. And I will remind you.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #248 on: June 29, 2016, 04:40:31 PM »
You really don't understand what the working class actually are.  You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.  The working class have had enough of their wages being smashed.  I live here and have worked with as well as for the working class of the past and present.  You live in a dream world Butterflies.  The result speaks for itself.  Live with it.

You're in for a surprise, Benji. Brexit will hurt the "working class" far more than the any other "class" but unfortunately you and your likes have yet to realise it. I'm betting you will, though, since a recession is very much character-building in that respect.

I'm also betting that even now, a mere two days after the fact, enough people who voted Leave have woken up to spot the first couple of the many broken promises and outright lies, and a very different result would be the outcome if another referendum was held.

And finally, while Merkel and a few others think there is no reason to be particularly nasty, they are a minority. I suspect any deal the UK is likely to get will either severely limit access to the European market or force the UK to agree with every major regulation in place, meaning that in reality, Brexis will have achieved very little beyond the UK losing its right to vote.

The working class were far better off before we were forced into the "Common Market" and then tricked into staying with the first referendum.  Most working class people could work hard and save for a property.

You don't know shit.  It's obvious to anyone that there would be negative consequences to begin with and we are suffering like we've actually left Europe already because of it, but not paying that £20,000 a minute will help this country massively.  If people were shown the real facts and educated on the past and how we've been taken in this far without being asked, we'd have voted "leave" in a landslide.  You want to talk about lies?  All the endless tripe and propaganda from your heroes Cameron and boy George.  When's WWIII starting?  Apparently voting out was what ISIS wanted?  Osbourne was going to launch an emergency budget!  Sure, the powers that be will punish the working class for making this decision.  But why punish the people?  How about starting to tax Google properly?  How about stop spending money on sickening wars?  Or perfecting nukes which is basically against International Law?  We had a "recession" while we were in the EU.  The powers that be can do what they like and get away with it.  What lies are you talking about anyway?  Please don't tell me it's about the NHS thing. 

I'd imagine we will just sign a deal that pretty much means we're in the EU but not on paper, and if that happens it will wake people up further to the corruption we are dealing with.  We don't make any decisions in the EU anyway, the unelected crooks and their friends do.

Fucking hell you are naive. In the words of EU politicians, you are back to 0. The only way you will access to the Single Market, which, in spite of what you morons think, is the key to your country's economy, is by going back on pretty much everything Boris, Nigel & Co promised you, but without voting rights. It will cost you more than the EU ever did.

Idiot.

Aww, you listen to EU politicians.  Our country is financially ruined, the EU relies on us, hence why they are so angry.  Or you think they're so angry cause they care so much about the UK's working people?   :hahaha:   All we have is a false economy based on mass immigration.  We have been monumentally fucked for years, but the media lets Osbourne and other 'experts' off because they suck the right dick.  You're so thick, naive and tragic that I feel genuinely sorry for you.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3551419/Osborne-overshoots-borrowing-target-74bn-budget-deficit-financial-year.html

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3551419/Osborne-overshoots-borrowing-target-74bn-budget-deficit-financial-year.html

http://qz.com/715845/british-stocks-lost-125-billion-after-brexit-or-15-years-worth-of-eu-contributions/  :hahaha:

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #249 on: June 29, 2016, 04:41:40 PM »
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/25/brexit-live-emergency-meetings-eu-uk-leave-vote?page=with:block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48#block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48


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The Labour frontbencher, Seema Malhotra, is speaking just ahead of Jeremy Corbyn’s speech in central London today.

The unshared prosperity, she adds, has been an important driver for how people felt about membership of the EU. But there are other concerns too around community cohesion.

She reads out a message from a teacher in her constituency who spoke of an incident that occurred after the referendum result. The teacher was escorting a group of young children when they were racially abused by members of the public.

They shouted: “Why are there only 10 white faces in this class? Why are you not educating the English?

Children aged six were crying and saying that they were going to have to leave the country, according to the teacher.
Malhotra says that people are in need of reassurance.


What a scummy, piece of shit, country we've become :soapbox:

Personally, I like my country and the people it contains.   You are free to leave at anytime.

I hear that attitude a lot from people like you. Personally, I find it a bit vile :thumbdn: Why should somebody be expected to leave their country, just because they don't like the direction it's going in? Surely it would be best if they stayed and tried to change things.

Anyway, I've already left :P I live in Budapest, and after the result of the referendum, I've never been more relieved.

I hold an Irish passport too, and from now on, I am referring to myself as Irish :green: I would be embarrassed to be associated with the Little Englanders who voted to leave.

You really should read what you write.   :facepalm2:

What can I say. I've always hated the attitude, "If you don't like the direction of the country, you"re free to leave." Especially coming from somebody who appears to have just voted to make it significantly harder to leave the country :-\

Says the Irish passport holder living in Budapest.  This isn't even your vote.

I had as much right to vote as you. This vote probably affected those living in the EU more than the people living in Britain. I wasn't able to vote though, because of a self-imposed voter registration fuck-up.

Your comment does kinda show the true nature of the Brexiteer. Only Little Englanders should be allowed to vote on something that effects everybody :thumbdn:
Let's stop blacks and Asians from voting too. After all, they're not true Brits :zombiefuck:

Why do you keep parroting phrases like "Little Englander"?  There's nothing that's made England more little than dissolving our sovereignty and trying to change from a state/country to a province.  You only want people who you agree with to be able to vote.  You also want Scotland to be Independent from the UK?!

Scotland wants independence from the UK, because they don't want a part of the stupidity.

Idiot.

Scotland tried to win 'independence' in 2014, and then there was talk of another referendum after last years election when the SNP wiped out Labour.  Sturgeon has been waiting for an opportunity to get another referendum.

Yes, and this time she will. And she will be right, and you will suffer more.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #250 on: June 29, 2016, 04:42:19 PM »
It's also worth noting that there is a petition floating around about London leaving, too.

That's just another indication how the London based media are getting hysterical and desperate.  London is a bubble.  It is out of touch with the realities of the rest of the country.

Incidentally...  the rest of the UK would secretly like Lonodon to fuck off too. 

But that aside, this is all piss and smoke.  It's nothing but a childish reaction of the Blairite centre left.

It's an indication of people being pissed off and knowing they will be paying for other people's mistakes.

You don't understand that would have been plenty of people voting leave knowing full well that it would/could cost them a lot financially?  You don't understand that new strategies have to be made and just maybe things could turn out for the better?  Or do you just believe everything your TV says?  Also, maybe not everything is about purely money.

:rofl:

It will be, when you don't have it.

But in the mean time, what are those new strategies? Tell me. We all need a laugh.

I got through a "recession" on very low wages, sure i'll cope.

Good. You'll have plenty of practice.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #251 on: June 29, 2016, 04:48:10 PM »
You really don't understand what the working class actually are.  You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.  The working class have had enough of their wages being smashed.  I live here and have worked with as well as for the working class of the past and present.  You live in a dream world Butterflies.  The result speaks for itself.  Live with it.

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You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.

Why? Technically I had as much right to vote as you :-\

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You really don't understand what the working class actually are.

Yes I do. I smell them every time I use public transport :P

Seriously, it's you who doesn't understand what the working class are. You think that being working class means racist, ignorant, and uneducated. This is not what working class is. That is an insult to the working class.

Okay, "can't" was the wrong word, it's just a bit rich. 

No I do not, that's what you're putting them down as but saying they aren't the working class because they're "racist" etc.  A lot of the working class are like that, well most of the country are ignorant and just have selected education.  It's the people who think they are so well educated and are so smug because they think they know so much better, but in reality they are just as naive and oblivious and are doing the work of the corporate machine for them.

"This country has had enough of experts."

God you are stupid.

I'm talking about people like you, you fucking moron, and rich students.  Why did you quote me on something I didn't even write?  Are you that naive and thick that you don't realise 'experts' can be corrupt and funnily enough, wrong?  What actual 'experts' are you talking about?  You are actually too insecure and retarded to make your own decisions aren't you?   

It's a quote that fit, because you're not letting facts get in your way.

God you will suffer.

Please enlighten me with these facts?

Sure.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/brexit-broken-promises/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/20/world/europe/britain-referendum-brexit-european-union.html

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a3a92744-3a52-11e6-9a05-82a9b15a8ee7.html#axzz4D0laYLye

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #252 on: June 29, 2016, 04:51:00 PM »
Oh, and this is sort of fun. In that horrible traffic accident victim kind of way. Lots of twisted metal.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #253 on: June 29, 2016, 05:02:08 PM »

Fucking awful :thumbdn:

Genuinely feel devastated :'(

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry >:(

Yeah, my colleagues in London spent most of the time cursing when I talked to them this morning. It's a disaster.

I don't think most of the people who voted know how bad this is.

That's because London is in a bubble and has no idea what happens in the real world.  The backbone of the country has spoken!  Democracy has one, the corporate machine has taken a smashing but will punish the working class for making the wrong choice.

Actually I think it's rather the other way around. The real world is not just some shithole in Wales these days, like it or not. Isolationism doesn't work.

See look at you, you arrogant cunt.  Your retarded heroes like Damon Albarn and his flock are isolationists, and they do not tolerate and accept democratic results that go against them.  You're allowed to have an opinion, as long as it's the right one.  London is a mess, it is being socially cleansed and the victims of that have bitten back.

You are the one who will end up with a recession, and as one of the "working class", you will suffer far worse than the rest.

And London? Yeah, London will suffer, too, and mostly because of cunts like you in forgotten-about shitholes somewhere northwest. Remember this in a year or two, when nothing you hoped would change will have changed but a lot of the other stuff you and your fellow idiots never thought of will have.

Idiot.

Aww, parroting what you heard in the media today?  As I said, the establishment and co can do what they like, they can punish the country when the bankers etc/'experts' fuck the world up or they can punish the country when they make a decision that doesn't help the corporate machine.  Some of us care about more than just money though.  We would rather die on our feet that live on our knees.  Cunts like you wouldn't understand principles though. 

The people of London will suffer sure, but your heroes will quickly find a way to fuck the people over and make more money. 

I've already mentioned numerous ways of getting our country back on track financially.  The 'experts' don't seem to keen on mentioning the billions and billions we've wasted on wars and perfecting nukes though.

Links, please.

And this vote was never about wars and nukes. It was to some considerable extent about what to do with all that money you are spending on membership fees. Now, would you mind telling the class what your guys promised  that money would go to? And would you then tell us what they told you after the vote?

Would you also like to tell the class about the Single Market and its importance to your country? And then, perhaps, parroting what the EU leaders told your country about the conditions for access to that market?

Perhaps you could then be so kind as to explain the implications of this.

Basically, the UK is now going to have to negotiate a deal that can never be as good as the one as Cameron had. And there are a lot of politicians in the EU that will laugh at you because they are angry. This affects them, too, sure, but they are comparatively better off than you are.

Links on what? 

Of course it wasn't, none of the crooks on either side wanted to talk about the worst problems.  Getting rid of the EU scapegoat was always what I hoped for.  People will now be wondering why we still have mass immigration when we're 'out' of the EU.  Maybe people will question Israel's trading deal with the EU and wonder why they don't need to be flooded with hundreds of thousands of migrants, who knows.  They aren't "my guys", I couldn't give a flying fuck about Boris, Farage or Gove.  Though it was twisted what was said.  It was said that we could spend the £350 million on things like the NHS, it wasn't claimed that we would spend £350 million on the NHS.  Pretty much all politicians lie and play games, I know that.  I don't ignore them like you just because that particular one is championing something I am in favor of.  Your hero Osbourne said he'd carry out an emergency budget if we left, which has been proven to be a lie. 

Hmm, the single market doesn't seem to have helped us in the slightest and it is all peanuts when compared to wars.  I'm not sure why this tiny full up island would have to be blackmailed into continuing with the open border policy just to be part of the single market.  We have a lot of weight, we should demand to purely trade with EU and forget about mass immigration, as the British people have had enough. 

Cameron didn't get any deal, he just came back with virtually nothing and crowed about how wonderfully he'd done, luckily people saw through it. 
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #254 on: June 29, 2016, 05:08:24 PM »

Fucking awful :thumbdn:

Genuinely feel devastated :'(

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry >:(

Yeah, my colleagues in London spent most of the time cursing when I talked to them this morning. It's a disaster.

I don't think most of the people who voted know how bad this is.

That's because London is in a bubble and has no idea what happens in the real world.  The backbone of the country has spoken!  Democracy has one, the corporate machine has taken a smashing but will punish the working class for making the wrong choice.

Actually I think it's rather the other way around. The real world is not just some shithole in Wales these days, like it or not. Isolationism doesn't work.

See look at you, you arrogant cunt.  Your retarded heroes like Damon Albarn and his flock are isolationists, and they do not tolerate and accept democratic results that go against them.  You're allowed to have an opinion, as long as it's the right one.  London is a mess, it is being socially cleansed and the victims of that have bitten back.

As I mentioned above, it seems pretty easy to see millions voted a specific way, to say they all are bigots and/or stupid seems ironically either bigoted and/or stupid.
There were pros and cons. People chose what they were prepared to accept and voted accordingly.  That more people placed importance on leaving than Odeon and Butterflies did is neither here nor there. It was their choice to make and they made it.
This whole Wales shithole comment sounds a little bit pissy.

The sad truth is that this is an issue that should never had been voted on because it's beyond the morons in the shitholes in Wales. Fear-mongering won, not facts, best witnessed by the Leave campaign's leaders nowhere close to offering a single practical way to solve the mess they were instrumental in creating. Seriously. When did they provide a single workable plan? They've already backed on most of the promises the made, and for good reason. Invoking Article 50 will be the undoing of the union, and the union's economy.

So yes, of course it's a pissy comment, but it's a comparatively mild reaction. There are far worse.

God, you really are a complete imbecile and Joseph Stalin's wet dream.  'Please save us the ones that have destroyed the country, we're too stupid to make decisions for ourselves'  :'(   Try reading some George Orwell novels. 

Oh yeah, because your hero Cameron and co didn't try to use fear, claiming there would be WWIII if we left or we would be voting in ISIS's interests, and the way the media used Jo Cox's death.

Idiot. Cameron was never my hero but he, unlike Boris et al, does have a point. WWIII is news to me, though. Care to elaborate?

But here's the thing: I know I'm right and will be here in a year or two when you will recall the good old days when you had money. And I will remind you.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-could-trigger-world-war-7928607

You don't know anything.  Like I've said before, you are more interested in being right than the truth.  You are so insecure it's embarrassing. 
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