Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.

[rock hound]

Iceland just defeated the UK in Soccer!    LOVE IT!   

[rock hound]

FourAceDeal, I like your posts on this topic, mate. Here's my response.

I'm aware of the Commonwealth ties and that we have to do business with them. I don't like how the Chinese government treat their people, but they have money. Same with Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, it's a necessary evil.

With immigration, I'd rather we be more selective with who comes in:

Highly intelligent and skilled.
Moderate to atheist.

Done. Very simple.

Post that please.

Add this too:

I want to see what Breeg and Scrap has to say about all of this; I'm dying to debate with them.
Cheers Steve.
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Add this too:

I want to see what Breeg and Scrap has to say about all of this; I'm dying to debate with them.
Cheers Steve.
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[Jack]

I was asked by Pea to post this:  The views are not mine, however, this is in the interest of free speech. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SifV5fSng&feature=youtu.be

Pappy wasn't available to carry his water this time?

Nor, Sir Les apparently.

['Butterflies']

Iceland just defeated the UK in Soccer!    LOVE IT!   

No, No, No, No, NO, NO


They did not beat the UK. They beat England

I've just polished off half a bottle of palinka in honour of my beautiful Icelandic brothers

In football, the British nations compete separately. There are separate Scottish, English, Northern Irish, Welsh, and Gibraltarian teams.

[Jack]

I am not that interested in this whole thing. Brexit got the majority vote and so good for them.
I do think that the European Union is sacrificing of a bit of national autonomy and identity for collective power andstrength and sharing of resources. To be a small part of a whole. Like combining together to make one large nation with a collective identity.

Apart from the opportunity for corruption, I see a big issue with the fact that Germany is not Britain nor France nor Spain.
They are vastly different. They are not one humougenous mass. Their cultures, history and values are not all the same. Their identity and what separates them from each other is important.
Important enough to leave? Maybe.
I think that it is good the citizens of Britain got to vote. I see nothing wrong with them getting to make their own decisions as to what's important to them

Personally find it extremely interesting. The EU is becoming a United States of Europe, gaining voice within the UN speaking for the union toward common EU foreign policy in recent years, and probably isn't long off from being given an official voting seat. It's an emerging super power in its own right, and understandable some countries might not like the idea of that. When the EU gains a UN vote, it will vote for all members of the union. When it becomes a member of the security council, it will be an official superpower. The UK might be getting out while the getting is good to maintain their level of authority within the UN, or negotiating their own level of power within the EU, and this is all related to a bigger agenda which has nothing to do with democratic voting points of the general public or topics in the news.

[rock hound]

Iceland just defeated the UK in Soccer!    LOVE IT!   

No, No, No, No, NO, NO


They did not beat the UK. They beat England

I've just polished off half a bottle of palinka in honour of my beautiful Icelandic brothers

In football, the British nations compete separately. There are separate Scottish, English, Northern Irish, Welsh, and Gibraltarian teams.

I stand corrected!

[Al Swearegen]

From Pea

Ho Pea. Don't worry about the video. No need to take it down. No big deal at all. FWIW, I'm open about giving my name, but prefer it not to be used in public because of privacy concerns. I'd hate a real life friend to find this account ,and realize it was me. I've written so much personal stuff, I would die of embarrassment if someone I knew IRL found it 

I deleted the video  because I respect your concerns. I won’t do a video like that regarding you again.

Also, if you don’t want me to post at you again, I’m giving you that opportunity here and now to say that you don’t want my input. I’m not taking it personal or anything. It’s just that your posts stood out in this topic, and I decided to comment on them. I’m typing this out of courtesy.

I really don't think Brexit is going to rid Britain of Bangladeshis 

I have no qualms with every Bangladeshi, and I understand that we can’t get rid of every bad one out. However, I don’t respect cultures who treat atheists and homosexuals as dogs like this poor lad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36128729 …

Again, I’m not against all immigration, but I am against having the intolerant in any parts of the UK while we deal with the local shit. I also want educated, sophisticated immigrants. Skin colour and nationality is irrelevant to me.

Nobody's laughing and mocking those who have genuine concerns about the EU. A lot of those concerns were valid. A lot of people feel utter despair at the fact that you guys have dragged us out of the EU over those concerns though.
Also, I really don't see much laughing going on among the Remainers. Like I say, despair seems to be the overwhelming emotion.

I’m glad that you’ve taking this tone. That’s good.

I understand that there would be harsh consequences after making this decision. But what could we do? Not vote because we’re afraid of alienating our social networks instead of looking at the bigger picture? I’ve had these concerns about the effects mass immigration and the monopoly capitalism has on pollution, public services, wages and housing for a long time now. I don’t care about the pragmatic reasons for being in the EU. Slowly, it was destroying this union socially and economically. Didn’t we have to deal with the recession and having to bail out other weaker economies?

It’s best to have a Europe where every nation is sovereign but with better trade agreements. That’s what we thought we were a part of in the first place.

I also ask that you take the time to watch this video from Sargon of Akkad. I normally don’t like his content, but what he said in the video resonates with how I feel about the EU. I want you to just listen to his concerns without having to completely jump to Brexit – I don’t expect you to. I’m aware of the idiots who vote, but I am not associated with ethnocentric socialists. I want less government, more freedom for individuals and businesses. I also want this country further out of debt without the globalists dragging us further down.

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[benjimanbreeg]

You really don't understand what the working class actually are.  You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.  The working class have had enough of their wages being smashed.  I live here and have worked with as well as for the working class of the past and present.  You live in a dream world Butterflies.  The result speaks for itself.  Live with it.

You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.

Why? Technically I had as much right to vote as you

You really don't understand what the working class actually are.

Yes I do. I smell them every time I use public transport

Seriously, it's you who doesn't understand what the working class are. You think that being working class means racist, ignorant, and uneducated. This is not what working class is. That is an insult to the working class.

Okay, "can't" was the wrong word, it's just a bit rich. 

No I do not, that's what you're putting them down as but saying they aren't the working class because they're "racist" etc.  A lot of the working class are like that, well most of the country are ignorant and just have selected education.  It's the people who think they are so well educated and are so smug because they think they know so much better, but in reality they are just as naive and oblivious and are doing the work of the corporate machine for them. 

[benjimanbreeg]

Fucking awful

Genuinely feel devastated

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry

Yeah, my colleagues in London spent most of the time cursing when I talked to them this morning. It's a disaster.

I don't think most of the people who voted know how bad this is.

That's because London is in a bubble and has no idea what happens in the real world.  The backbone of the country has spoken!  Democracy has one, the corporate machine has taken a smashing but will punish the working class for making the wrong choice.

Actually I think it's rather the other way around. The real world is not just some shithole in Wales these days, like it or not. Isolationism doesn't work.

See look at you, you arrogant cunt.  Your retarded heroes like Damon Albarn and his flock are isolationists, and they do not tolerate and accept democratic results that go against them.  You're allowed to have an opinion, as long as it's the right one.  London is a mess, it is being socially cleansed and the victims of that have bitten back.

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[Al Swearegen]

Fucking awful

Genuinely feel devastated

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry

Yeah, my colleagues in London spent most of the time cursing when I talked to them this morning. It's a disaster.

I don't think most of the people who voted know how bad this is.

That's because London is in a bubble and has no idea what happens in the real world.  The backbone of the country has spoken!  Democracy has one, the corporate machine has taken a smashing but will punish the working class for making the wrong choice.

Actually I think it's rather the other way around. The real world is not just some shithole in Wales these days, like it or not. Isolationism doesn't work.

See look at you, you arrogant cunt.  Your retarded heroes like Damon Albarn and his flock are isolationists, and they do not tolerate and accept democratic results that go against them.  You're allowed to have an opinion, as long as it's the right one.  London is a mess, it is being socially cleansed and the victims of that have bitten back.

As I mentioned above, it seems pretty easy to see millions voted a specific way, to say they all are bigots and/or stupid seems ironically either bigoted and/or stupid.
There were pros and cons. People chose what they were prepared to accept and voted accordingly.  That more people placed importance on leaving than Odeon and Butterflies did is neither here nor there. It was their choice to make and they made it.
This whole Wales shithole comment sounds a little bit pissy.

[benjimanbreeg]

You really don't understand what the working class actually are.  You can't move away from the country and tell us what we should vote for.  The working class have had enough of their wages being smashed.  I live here and have worked with as well as for the working class of the past and present.  You live in a dream world Butterflies.  The result speaks for itself.  Live with it.

You're in for a surprise, Benji. Brexit will hurt the "working class" far more than the any other "class" but unfortunately you and your likes have yet to realise it. I'm betting you will, though, since a recession is very much character-building in that respect.

I'm also betting that even now, a mere two days after the fact, enough people who voted Leave have woken up to spot the first couple of the many broken promises and outright lies, and a very different result would be the outcome if another referendum was held.

And finally, while Merkel and a few others think there is no reason to be particularly nasty, they are a minority. I suspect any deal the UK is likely to get will either severely limit access to the European market or force the UK to agree with every major regulation in place, meaning that in reality, Brexis will have achieved very little beyond the UK losing its right to vote.

The working class were far better off before we were forced into the "Common Market" and then tricked into staying with the first referendum.  Most working class people could work hard and save for a property.

You don't know shit.  It's obvious to anyone that there would be negative consequences to begin with and we are suffering like we've actually left Europe already because of it, but not paying that £20,000 a minute will help this country massively.  If people were shown the real facts and educated on the past and how we've been taken in this far without being asked, we'd have voted "leave" in a landslide.  You want to talk about lies?  All the endless tripe and propaganda from your heroes Cameron and boy George.  When's WWIII starting?  Apparently voting out was what ISIS wanted?  Osbourne was going to launch an emergency budget!  Sure, the powers that be will punish the working class for making this decision.  But why punish the people?  How about starting to tax Google properly?  How about stop spending money on sickening wars?  Or perfecting nukes which is basically against International Law?  We had a "recession" while we were in the EU.  The powers that be can do what they like and get away with it.  What lies are you talking about anyway?  Please don't tell me it's about the NHS thing. 

I'd imagine we will just sign a deal that pretty much means we're in the EU but not on paper, and if that happens it will wake people up further to the corruption we are dealing with.  We don't make any decisions in the EU anyway, the unelected crooks and their friends do. 

[benjimanbreeg]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/25/brexit-live-emergency-meetings-eu-uk-leave-vote?page=with:block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48#block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48

The Labour frontbencher, Seema Malhotra, is speaking just ahead of Jeremy Corbyn’s speech in central London today.

The unshared prosperity, she adds, has been an important driver for how people felt about membership of the EU. But there are other concerns too around community cohesion.

She reads out a message from a teacher in her constituency who spoke of an incident that occurred after the referendum result. The teacher was escorting a group of young children when they were racially abused by members of the public.

They shouted: “Why are there only 10 white faces in this class? Why are you not educating the English?

Children aged six were crying and saying that they were going to have to leave the country, according to the teacher. Malhotra says that people are in need of reassurance.

What a scummy, piece of shit, country we've become

Personally, I like my country and the people it contains.   You are free to leave at anytime.

I hear that attitude a lot from people like you. Personally, I find it a bit vile Why should somebody be expected to leave their country, just because they don't like the direction it's going in? Surely it would be best if they stayed and tried to change things.

Anyway, I've already left I live in Budapest, and after the result of the referendum, I've never been more relieved.

I hold an Irish passport too, and from now on, I am referring to myself as Irish I would be embarrassed to be associated with the Little Englanders who voted to leave.

You really should read what you write.   

What can I say. I've always hated the attitude, "If you don't like the direction of the country, you"re free to leave." Especially coming from somebody who appears to have just voted to make it significantly harder to leave the country

Says the Irish passport holder living in Budapest.  This isn't even your vote.

I had as much right to vote as you. This vote probably affected those living in the EU more than the people living in Britain. I wasn't able to vote though, because of a self-imposed voter registration fuck-up.

Your comment does kinda show the true nature of the Brexiteer. Only Little Englanders should be allowed to vote on something that effects everybody
Let's stop blacks and Asians from voting too. After all, they're not true Brits

Why do you keep parroting phrases like "Little Englander"?  There's nothing that's made England more little than dissolving our sovereignty and trying to change from a state/country to a province.  You only want people who you agree with to be able to vote.  You also want Scotland to be Independent from the UK?!

[benjimanbreeg]

No. Fouracedeal did

Yes.  He was sick of being called a racist by people who can't accept they were on the losing side of a democratic vote.

Actually, I'm not sure I was on the losing side. I'm Scottish, and we voted to stay in. Now it looks like we'll be holding an independence referendum. England may be leaving the EU, but it's far from certain Scotland will.

Perhaps you should just get back to deciding who will be allowed to vote in your glorious New England

Scotland didn't vote for anything!  The UK voted as a whole!  What about the 38% of Scots that voted to leave, can't they just demand that Scotland keeps voting until the country learns that they must vote to leave?