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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #135 on: June 26, 2016, 12:35:18 PM »
I'd think it was hilarious, actually.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #136 on: June 26, 2016, 12:47:52 PM »
I was asked by Pea to post this:  The views are not mine, however, this is in the interest of free speech. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SifV5fSng&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #137 on: June 26, 2016, 12:51:06 PM »
We have more than our share of separatists here in the states.  Texass has been threatening independence ever since Obama was elected..... :yawn:   As for trumpty-numpty, that orange con man scares me    :zombiefuck:
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #138 on: June 26, 2016, 01:17:20 PM »
I was asked by Pea to post this:  The views are not mine, however, this is in the interest of free speech. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SifV5fSng&feature=youtu.be

This video seems to be all about me :dunno: He's even calling me by my real name on a Youtube video :-\

It's sweet that he's "not criticized me for being lesbian," and "not really criticized me for being Scottish" :laugh:

Is he mentally ill?


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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #139 on: June 26, 2016, 01:24:11 PM »
Honestly, if anybody's a fan of Ricky Gervais, or Alan Partridge, they should really set aside 15 minutes to watch his video :laugh:

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #140 on: June 26, 2016, 03:08:31 PM »
I was asked by Pea to post this:  The views are not mine, however, this is in the interest of free speech. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SifV5fSng&feature=youtu.be

This video seems to be all about me :dunno: He's even calling me by my real name on a Youtube video :-\

It's sweet that he's "not criticized me for being lesbian," and "not really criticized me for being Scottish" :laugh:

Is he mentally ill?


Is it possible that Pea is FourAceDeal? Sorry to FAD if that''s not the case.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #141 on: June 26, 2016, 03:18:40 PM »
Would like to thank Pappy for starting this thread; one of the more interesting in a long time. Where are you, Pappy?

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #142 on: June 26, 2016, 04:10:12 PM »

I'm not sure what alternate reality you are in, but there was one vote.  A British wide YES/NO vote to stay in or leave the EU.

There was no vote by Scotland to do anything.  There was no vote by England to do anything.  There was no vote for NI to do anything.  One vote.  Britain.  Yes.  No.

By the nature of our electoral system votes are totted up via the same method of general elections which gives us the ability to see how votes are cast by region.  That is all that has happened.  Some statistics.  Nothing else has happened except a lot of speculation.

Yes, I suppose you're right. Nothing has happened. Scotland hasn't called an independence referendum, and UK hasn't left the EU.

If UK does leave the EU, which is looking slightly less certain now, then unless the terms of withdrawal are suitable to Scotland, Scotland will hold a new referendum.

Who knows what the result of the Scottish referendum would be. I guess it probably depends on the terms of the UKs EU withdrawal.


I don't think that Scotland will just blindly do as England tells it.

I hear that....  To the Scots the English are the bogey man.  If a Scot got a letter from the English telling him the sky was blue he'd look out the window to make sure.

When I'm not ranting I feel sorry for the Scots.  What the fuck do they do?  Putting their hatred of the English aside, do they stick with Britain outside the EU?  The alternative is to become a small non-EU country and apply for membership.  But then they will be forced into the Euro as an entry requirement. 

Britain had one thing going for it  and that was we had a lot of hard fought for changes to the usual EU membership rules that no one else had.  Do the Scots want the full on 100% integrated Euro using membership?  Because that's what weill be on offer.  If so then goodbye and thanks for all the whisky.  Sorry about the new border fence, but you know how it goes.

And Northern Ireland?  Fuck.  Historically there has always been "The Irish Question".  It's not a simple thing like, "shall we stay with Britain or shall we not stay with Britain?".  NI is a barrel of dynamite whos smoking fuse has gone out.  Or at least you think its gone out.  You can smell burning.  Hmmmm...    Seriously, tell me a scenario where the status quo changes in any way that doesn't end in civil war.  There's still a shit load of assualt rifles hidden under floor boards in NI.  Would The Republic of Ireland even want to be dealing with that?  Do they even have the infrastructure to deal with a new kick off of "The Troubles"?

Then the rest of Europe.  There is , of course, the domino effect.  Article 50 has not been activated because time is on Britains side.  How will the landscape change id, say Holland for ce a referendum?  Or Finland?  Or Italy?  Or even the French?

Germany may be facing the prospect of bank rolling a bloated EU by themselves and have fewer and fewer bargaining chips.  Perhaps this is the point where the EU changes course and goes back to the institution it was meant to be and the idea of a superstate is put to rest.

No one knows how things are going to pan out, but best that no one panics.  We live in interesting times. 

And its going to be a long haul, so best pace yourself.

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #143 on: June 26, 2016, 04:16:48 PM »
I was asked by Pea to post this:  The views are not mine, however, this is in the interest of free speech. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SifV5fSng&feature=youtu.be

This video seems to be all about me :dunno: He's even calling me by my real name on a Youtube video :-\

It's sweet that he's "not criticized me for being lesbian," and "not really criticized me for being Scottish" :laugh:

Is he mentally ill?


Is it possible that Pea is FourAceDeal? Sorry to FAD if that''s not the case.

FourAceDeal is certainly mentally ill and apologises for not taking medication today.  Is being mentally ill a problem here?  Did I come to the wrong meeting?

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #144 on: June 26, 2016, 05:34:11 PM »
Pea replied to Butterflies and since it's relevant, he asked me to post his reply.   After this I will retire temporarily from the messenger role and have some more RED WINE!   


"I used your name because you disclosed it to me and others a while back. You also disclosed some things about yourself to me like how hard you had it. Not sure if you remember. I only did so because we were briefly acquainted and you were polite, so I'm returning the favour somewhat. If you prefer to be called by your username, fine. My online friends and I use our first names to one another all of the time.  Also, this video is unlisted, not public.  If you want it taken down because I used your first name, I will.

Like I said, father's from Scotland, so I don't really dislike Scottish people. I just don't like the SNP lot much, especially when they're negative about my country - not all of them. However, like them, I want independence from the UK, but under capitalism whereas SNP wants socialism. I also speak to a Scottish guy online now and then  who supports different economical values to you. He feels isolated due to the SNP because of what economical system they support. In fact, I would say he is one of the people who helped me support the idea of a Brexit.

Yes; one of the reasons why I support the idea of Brexit is to curtail the number of religious people coming into the UK. I've seen videos of Bangladeshis and such in London, for example, abusing homosexuals. Because of the EU courts, the UK government do very little to prevent these terrorists. Hopefully, with this gamble, we'd oust these idiots out of the country under our own laws. Like I said, no matter what people think of me right now, I believe in liberty and protecting the rights of others, as long as it's consensual and it doesn't harm others. Legalising drugs is one of my views, too.

Am I mentally ill? Possibly, due to the stroke I had a few years back. It affects the individual in various ways. However, just because I may receive negative attention on the internet, it does not apply to how colleagues and such interact with me in real life. Anyway, the whole Brexit reaction fascinates me online, so I'm indulging until my other work begins next month to keep me occupied. The whole dialogue between you and Breeg intrigued me, so I wanted to give my support to what he is saying about globalism.

There's bound to be problems with the entire decision, like if it was a Bremain one; but if you watch the likes of Sargon of Akkad on youtube, who explains his decision more eloquently than I do verbally, you'd probably appreciate a little of why people have voted Brexit. Incidentally, I agree with Breeg that's it's unfair to just laugh and mock those who have geniune concerns about the EU as a whole.

I was pretty polite to locals in my Grassroots Out campaign with leafleting. There were some non white residents I spoke to who had an interest in the OUT stance. I never imposed my views on those who had no interest in the election. Again, while there are idiots in OUT, I don't think I'm prejudice to those with skin colour. Religious ideals, I admittedly am.

I'll continue this further if you wish, but right now I'm rather tired and I might be getting some sleep soon."

"I also want to add that FourAceDeal makes some pretty reasonable points pertaining to this Brexit subject. Unlike me, he's not proudly cray cray.

He's right about one thing, however: the times will definitely be arduous, but they will pay off in the end. I believe I voted for what I think is just."


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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #145 on: June 26, 2016, 05:36:39 PM »
Quite frankly, I want Peaguy back here, but, that is not my decision to make.   Nor, would I want to be in that position, being an admin is a thankless and frustrating job!  I've done it twice and will never do so again!    :P
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #146 on: June 26, 2016, 06:26:20 PM »
this is in the interest of free speech. 


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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #147 on: June 26, 2016, 06:27:44 PM »
FourAceDeal is certainly mentally ill and apologises for not taking medication today.  Is being mentally ill a problem here?  Did I come to the wrong meeting?

I'm cyber e-humping your leg right now.  :zoinks:
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #148 on: June 26, 2016, 07:04:09 PM »
I was asked by Pea to post this:  The views are not mine, however, this is in the interest of free speech. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SifV5fSng&feature=youtu.be

This video seems to be all about me :dunno: He's even calling me by my real name on a Youtube video :-\

It's sweet that he's "not criticized me for being lesbian," and "not really criticized me for being Scottish" :laugh:

Is he mentally ill?


Is it possible that Pea is FourAceDeal? Sorry to FAD if that''s not the case.

That is your insult default isn't it. No judging, but it is isn't it?
If you disagree with a position or don't like the person, you call them mentally ill or crazy or the like.

I suggest that it usually is more likely that people have different thoughts and perspectives than you and that neither make you right nor more sane for having different thoughts.

By all means though, keep throwing that out there.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #149 on: June 26, 2016, 07:20:43 PM »
I am not that interested in this whole thing. Brexit got the majority vote and so good for them.
I do think that the European Union is sacrificing of a bit of national autonomy and identity for collective power andstrength and sharing of resources. To be a small part of a whole. Like combining together to make one large nation with a collective identity.

Apart from the opportunity for corruption, I see a big issue with the fact that Germany is not Britain nor France nor Spain.
They are vastly different. They are not one humougenous mass. Their cultures, history and values are not all the same. Their identity and what separates them from each other is important.
Important enough to leave? Maybe.
I think that it is good the citizens of Britain got to vote. I see nothing wrong with them getting to make their own decisions as to what's important to them
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap