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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #75 on: June 25, 2016, 10:47:20 AM »
Wondering if the UK will survive this. :-\


God, I hope not :soapbox:

Scotland looks like it's going to hold a new independence referendum, and I sincerely hope it's successful.

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #76 on: June 25, 2016, 10:53:47 AM »
If it was possible to change anything by voting they wouldn't let us do it.
Such is democracy.

Wondering if the UK will survive this. :-\
God, I hope not :soapbox:
That's harsh. :laugh:



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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #77 on: June 25, 2016, 11:01:58 AM »
If it was possible to change anything by voting they wouldn't let us do it.
Such is democracy.

Wondering if the UK will survive this. :-\
God, I hope not :soapbox:
That's harsh. :laugh:

Hey, it's fair enough. I'm Scottish, and Scotland voted 62-38 to stay in.

I think a growing number of Scots are realizing that sharing a country with England is making us feel slightly dirty :laugh:

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #78 on: June 25, 2016, 11:05:47 AM »
If it was possible to change anything by voting they wouldn't let us do it.
Such is democracy.

Wondering if the UK will survive this. :-\
God, I hope not :soapbox:
That's harsh. :laugh:

Hey, it's fair enough. I'm Scottish, and Scotland voted 62-38 to stay in.

I think a growing number of Scots are realizing that sharing a country with England is making us feel slightly dirty :laugh:

  This guy feels your pain.  :thumbup:

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #79 on: June 25, 2016, 11:12:02 AM »
If it was possible to change anything by voting they wouldn't let us do it.
Such is democracy.

Wondering if the UK will survive this. :-\
God, I hope not :soapbox:
That's harsh. :laugh:

Hey, it's fair enough. I'm Scottish, and Scotland voted 62-38 to stay in.

I think a growing number of Scots are realizing that sharing a country with England is making us feel slightly dirty :laugh:

So you just hate the English?  Yeah.  How very European.
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2016, 11:13:37 AM »
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/25/brexit-live-emergency-meetings-eu-uk-leave-vote?page=with:block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48#block-576e5920e4b0f43038109c48


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The Labour frontbencher, Seema Malhotra, is speaking just ahead of Jeremy Corbyn’s speech in central London today.

The unshared prosperity, she adds, has been an important driver for how people felt about membership of the EU. But there are other concerns too around community cohesion.

She reads out a message from a teacher in her constituency who spoke of an incident that occurred after the referendum result. The teacher was escorting a group of young children when they were racially abused by members of the public.

They shouted: “Why are there only 10 white faces in this class? Why are you not educating the English?

Children aged six were crying and saying that they were going to have to leave the country, according to the teacher.
Malhotra says that people are in need of reassurance.


What a scummy, piece of shit, country we've become :soapbox:

Personally, I like my country and the people it contains.   You are free to leave at anytime.

I hear that attitude a lot from people like you. Personally, I find it a bit vile :thumbdn: Why should somebody be expected to leave their country, just because they don't like the direction it's going in? Surely it would be best if they stayed and tried to change things.

Anyway, I've already left :P I live in Budapest, and after the result of the referendum, I've never been more relieved.

I hold an Irish passport too, and from now on, I am referring to myself as Irish :green: I would be embarrassed to be associated with the Little Englanders who voted to leave.

I put forward plenty of arguements in my post above as to why people could feel legitimately that they were best out of the EU, but you still called me a Little Englander (and by assocciation a racist I suppose).  Would that be because, like the remain campaign in general, you have no answers to any political issues?  All you can do is point a finger and call names.

Some of the reasons people have given for being pissed off at the EU were valid, but actually choosing to leave it was an extreme case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

There are people who wanted to leave who aren't racist. Sadly though, the clear undercurrent throughout the campaign was one of extreme xenophobia.

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2016, 11:19:36 AM »
If it was possible to change anything by voting they wouldn't let us do it.
Such is democracy.

Wondering if the UK will survive this. :-\
God, I hope not :soapbox:
That's harsh. :laugh:

Hey, it's fair enough. I'm Scottish, and Scotland voted 62-38 to stay in.

I think a growing number of Scots are realizing that sharing a country with England is making us feel slightly dirty :laugh:

So you just hate the English?  Yeah.  How very European.

I had never subscribed to anti-English sentiment, but recent events have made me reconsider :P

Seriously though, I don't dislike the English. I have contempt for the Brexiteers, wherever they are.

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2016, 11:37:11 AM »
Hey, it's fair enough.
Not really. :laugh: The UK is a powerful global influence and important to the world's economy, and that wont change regardless of associations with the EU; it's not in anyone's best interest to wish them failure as a nation.

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2016, 11:56:35 AM »
Hey, it's fair enough.
Not really. :laugh: The UK is a powerful global influence and important to the world's economy, and that wont change regardless of associations with the EU; it's not in anyone's best interest to wish them failure as a nation.

I don't think you really understand :dunno:

The UK is a union of nations. The largest, England, voted to leave the UK. Much smaller Scotland voted overwhelmingly to stay in the EU.

This has inevitably lead to huge debate as to whether the UK can survive. There is a huge amount of discussion about Scotland holding a referendum on independence, and a smaller amount of discussion on Northern Ireland rejoining Ireland.

After being dragged out of the EU against our will, I think Scotland and N.Ireland should go their own way. This would obviously mean that the UK would cease to exist. Many Scots and N:Irish would rather be EU citizens, than UK citizens.

So, I hope that the UK fails to survive this.

Odeon's question made most sense, if it's assumed he was suggesting that the UK may break up into it's constituent parts.  Obviously, I hope that Scotland, N.Ireland, Wales, and N.Ireland survive this, but obviously they'll survive it. The countries aren't going to cease to exist.

Sorry, I'm in a hurry. If that doesn't make sense, I'll try and explain it better.

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2016, 12:58:43 PM »
Oh, I understand. The UK is a sovereign state with its own government; it's a nation with a high ranking seat in the United Nations, and will stand by the statement it's not in anyone's interest to wish failure on the UK as a nation.

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2016, 01:36:49 PM »
Oh, I understand. The UK is a sovereign state with its own government; it's a nation with a high ranking seat in the United Nations, and will stand by the statement it's not in anyone's interest to wish failure on the UK as a nation.

 :dunno:

I don't think anyone wishes "failure on the UK as a nation," as such.

Northern Ireland belonging to UK is a historical travesty. Ireland should be united, but obviously political problems have put paid to that in the past. If the opportunity comes along to undo that mistake peacefully, then it has to be seriously explored. Any reasonable person has to agree :dunno:

A large proportion of Scots, myself included, feel more European than British. After the outrageous decision by the English and Welsh to drag us out of the EU against our will, a lot of us think we would be better being independent and a member of the EU.

Now, it's fair enough that you oppose Scottish independence and Irish reunification. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and that's yours.
I can't understand why seem to think that to want Scottish independence, or Irish reunification, is in some way unreasonable.

Why does Scotland, a country in it's own right, not deserve the right to right to self-determination?
Why is it better for Ireland to remain an island divided, if by some chance the people of N.Ireland actually want reunification?
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2016, 02:57:14 PM »
we're an embarrassment. i'm going on holiday next month in 5 different european countries and already i'm dreading having to apologise on behalf of my fucking country

Where will you be going?

germany, lithuania, latvia, estonia and finland

we're an embarrassment. i'm going on holiday next month in 5 different european countries and already i'm dreading having to apologise on behalf of my fucking country

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Think of me. A lot of my friends are Hungarians, or foreign university students. I cant even defend my country >:( Im just having to disown it :laugh:

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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2016, 04:06:46 PM »

Fucking awful :thumbdn:

Genuinely feel devastated :'(

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry >:(

You need to get a serious grip though and accept the democratic result.  You don't even live here?  :P

Democracy is not about getting the result you want, it's about accepting the result of the majority.  The working class has spoken, they no longer want to be flooded so their wages can be kept down and have their communities dismantled.  This is a victory for Tony Benn, Enoch Powell and Michael Foot.  Justice has been done! 
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2016, 04:09:55 PM »

Fucking awful :thumbdn:

Genuinely feel devastated :'(

Stayed up all night watching the results come through with a growing sense of horror.

Got about an hours sleep, and now I just want to cry >:(

Yeah, my colleagues in London spent most of the time cursing when I talked to them this morning. It's a disaster.

I don't think most of the people who voted know how bad this is.

That's because London is in a bubble and has no idea what happens in the real world.  The backbone of the country has spoken!  Democracy has one, the corporate machine has taken a smashing but will punish the working class for making the wrong choice. 
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Fatality waits in the wings
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Re: Brexit omelette with ham and cheese.
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2016, 04:12:41 PM »
This is going to be a fucking disaster