Rape...20 yrs later? WTF?

[odeon]

It's odd that he has been named, methinks.

[Jack]

Journalism ethics protect the names of the alleged victim.

[Parts]

Wondering how the prosecution is planning on proving rape.

He-said/she-said.  Unlikely a jury would convict.

20 year old He-said/she-said at that.  Unlikely to convict or not he will still have to mount a defense, have his photo posted all over the net, name dragged through the mud, spend time in jail, court and live the rest of his life with a lot of people thinking he did it regardless of the outcome.  The people behind all this deserve jail

[Jack]

Wondering how the prosecution is planning on proving rape.

He-said/she-said.  Unlikely a jury would convict.

20 year old He-said/she-said at that.  Unlikely to convict or not he will still have to mount a defense, have his photo posted all over the net, name dragged through the mud, spend time in jail, court and live the rest of his life with a lot of people thinking he did it regardless of the outcome.  The people behind all this deserve jail

It was annoying the article left people to do the math, instead of coming right out and saying this is about a couple of minors very similar in age. Since he was the younger one, it also seems rather convenient for her, that she claims it stopped when she was seventeen. Nothing about it reads right. Twelve is old enough to be the baby sitter, but he needed a sitter until fourteen doesn't sound right either.

['andersom']

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

[MLA]

Wondering how the prosecution is planning on proving rape.

He-said/she-said.  Unlikely a jury would convict.

Depends on the jury. Get enough millennial SJW wankers on there and he'll be found guilty because of penis.

Good to have an expert opinion 

[MLA]

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

We don't have to convict to put someone in jail.  They have to be offered bail in most non-capital cases, which he has been.

['andersom']

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

We don't have to convict to put someone in jail.  They have to be offered bail in most non-capital cases, which he has been.

But mugshot and name can be in the open before being proven guilty?

And is someone really in jail? Or in custody for a limited time during investigations? What if someone does not have the money to be bailed out? What if investigations take a long time? Will there be any kind of compensation? Or is a person just free game in this?

[Al Swearegen]

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

We don't have to convict to put someone in jail.  They have to be offered bail in most non-capital cases, which he has been.

But mugshot and name can be in the open before being proven guilty?

And is someone really in jail? Or in custody for a limited time during investigations? What if someone does not have the money to be bailed out? What if investigations take a long time? Will there be any kind of compensation? Or is a person just free game in this?

Actually I am interested in this too

[MLA]

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

We don't have to convict to put someone in jail.  They have to be offered bail in most non-capital cases, which he has been.

But mugshot and name can be in the open before being proven guilty?

And is someone really in jail? Or in custody for a limited time during investigations? What if someone does not have the money to be bailed out? What if investigations take a long time? Will there be any kind of compensation? Or is a person just free game in this?

Yes, an arrest is public record.  Doesn't require a proving of guilt before the information is released.  They are remanded to custody until trial.  They have a constitutional right to a "speedy trial", but most of the time that's waived in order to adequately prepare.  In a serious case, you can wait for trial for more than a year.  If you are found not guilty there is no compensation.

It sounds worse than it really is.  The vast majority of people arrested are guilty of what they are being tried for.  The standard for an arrest is rather high.  Minor crimes usually have the bond set really low so everyone can get out.  The amount required to be released is directly related to flight risk.  You are paying money to ensure your attendance at trial if you can't provide what the court thinks is an adequate amount to ensure you show up then you stay put until you are adjudicated.

Is this very different from you neck of the woods?

[Al Swearegen]

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

We don't have to convict to put someone in jail.  They have to be offered bail in most non-capital cases, which he has been.

But mugshot and name can be in the open before being proven guilty?

And is someone really in jail? Or in custody for a limited time during investigations? What if someone does not have the money to be bailed out? What if investigations take a long time? Will there be any kind of compensation? Or is a person just free game in this?

Yes, an arrest is public record.  Doesn't require a proving of guilt before the information is released.  They are remanded to custody until trial.  They have a constitutional right to a "speedy trial", but most of the time that's waived in order to adequately prepare.  In a serious case, you can wait for trial for more than a year.  If you are found not guilty there is no compensation.

It sounds worse than it really is.  The vast majority of people arrested are guilty of what they are being tried for.  The standard for an arrest is rather high.  Minor crimes usually have the bond set really low so everyone can get out.  The amount required to be released is directly related to flight risk.  You are paying money to ensure your attendance at trial if you can't provide what the court thinks is an adequate amount to ensure you show up then you stay put until you are adjudicated.

Is this very different from you neck of the woods?

I've no idea. I know that the wait times here are 14 weeks. As to cost and arrests and how readily available the arrested's details are available to the media? No idea.

What protections have such people got ONCE details are leaked and name is dragged through the mud PRIOR to being let off or the case being dismissed? (Obviously monetary compensation EVEN after the rigour of a trial on suing someone is often no real compensation to reputation)

[MLA]

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

We don't have to convict to put someone in jail.  They have to be offered bail in most non-capital cases, which he has been.

But mugshot and name can be in the open before being proven guilty?

And is someone really in jail? Or in custody for a limited time during investigations? What if someone does not have the money to be bailed out? What if investigations take a long time? Will there be any kind of compensation? Or is a person just free game in this?

Yes, an arrest is public record.  Doesn't require a proving of guilt before the information is released.  They are remanded to custody until trial.  They have a constitutional right to a "speedy trial", but most of the time that's waived in order to adequately prepare.  In a serious case, you can wait for trial for more than a year.  If you are found not guilty there is no compensation.

It sounds worse than it really is.  The vast majority of people arrested are guilty of what they are being tried for.  The standard for an arrest is rather high.  Minor crimes usually have the bond set really low so everyone can get out.  The amount required to be released is directly related to flight risk.  You are paying money to ensure your attendance at trial if you can't provide what the court thinks is an adequate amount to ensure you show up then you stay put until you are adjudicated.

Is this very different from you neck of the woods?

I've no idea. I know that the wait times here are 14 weeks. As to cost and arrests and how readily available the arrested's details are available to the media? No idea.

What protections have such people got ONCE details are leaked and name is dragged through the mud PRIOR to being let off or the case being dismissed?

Nothing.  An arrest is public record and even has to be disclosed on job applications if asked.  An arrest can ruin your life, even if you did nothing wrong.  We have the highest percentage of incarcerated citizens in the world.  Much higher than Russia or China.  5% of the world's population and 25% of its inmates.  We privatized the system so that giant corporations make shit-tons of money off the incarcerated, so they have armies of lobbyists pushing congress for stricter laws, longer mandatory sentencing, etc.  The system doesn't give a shit about the individual, there is money to be made!  If someone is arrested and can't find work they will eventually fall into a life of crime, get arrested, and make someone a profit.  It's the American Way.

[Al Swearegen]

Honestly I hope he sues them all

Agreed.

Yes.

What happened to not guilty till proven to be guilty? Why is this man in jail? Makes no sense to me. Can he sue the system for this too?

We don't have to convict to put someone in jail.  They have to be offered bail in most non-capital cases, which he has been.

But mugshot and name can be in the open before being proven guilty?

And is someone really in jail? Or in custody for a limited time during investigations? What if someone does not have the money to be bailed out? What if investigations take a long time? Will there be any kind of compensation? Or is a person just free game in this?

Yes, an arrest is public record.  Doesn't require a proving of guilt before the information is released.  They are remanded to custody until trial.  They have a constitutional right to a "speedy trial", but most of the time that's waived in order to adequately prepare.  In a serious case, you can wait for trial for more than a year.  If you are found not guilty there is no compensation.

It sounds worse than it really is.  The vast majority of people arrested are guilty of what they are being tried for.  The standard for an arrest is rather high.  Minor crimes usually have the bond set really low so everyone can get out.  The amount required to be released is directly related to flight risk.  You are paying money to ensure your attendance at trial if you can't provide what the court thinks is an adequate amount to ensure you show up then you stay put until you are adjudicated.

Is this very different from you neck of the woods?

I've no idea. I know that the wait times here are 14 weeks. As to cost and arrests and how readily available the arrested's details are available to the media? No idea.

What protections have such people got ONCE details are leaked and name is dragged through the mud PRIOR to being let off or the case being dismissed?

Nothing.  An arrest is public record and even has to be disclosed on job applications if asked.  An arrest can ruin your life, even if you did nothing wrong.  We have the highest percentage of incarcerated citizens in the world.  Much higher than Russia or China.  5% of the world's population and 25% of its inmates.  We privatized the system so that giant corporations make shit-tons of money off the incarcerated, so they have armies of lobbyists pushing congress for stricter laws, longer mandatory sentencing, etc.  The system doesn't give a shit about the individual, there is money to be made!  If someone is arrested and can't find work they will eventually fall into a life of crime, get arrested, and make someone a profit.  It's the American Way.

Holy shit!

I had no idea. I am dumbfounded. We have a 5 year criminal record here for all major crime. After that the crime is struck off the record if it is minor. Your crime is ONLY recorded IF you are convicted here. 

[MLA]

Here you can have your record as a minor expunged or you get a one-time petition to the court to have one charge removed.  Other than that, it stays with you for life.  In my state the records are publicly accessible on the interwebz and include traffic violations.

[Al Swearegen]

Here you can have your record as a minor expunged or you get a one-time petition to the court to have one charge removed.  Other than that, it stays with you for life.  In my state the records are publicly accessible on the interwebz and include traffic violations.

Damn!

Here your minor records effectively and automatically disappear on your 18th Birthday.
Major crimes after your 18th birthday stay on your record.
Due to privacy laws, the details will not be posted around BUT may be shown in public court records and may even make it into papers.