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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2016, 01:30:33 PM »
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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2016, 01:46:18 PM »
Isn't that basically how suicide bombings work?

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2016, 02:21:56 PM »

Isn't that basically how suicide bombings work?

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Now that I think about it...

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2016, 03:34:50 PM »
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2016, 06:14:08 AM »
It's about moderation and presentation. Benji, you can't react this way every time someone does not "buy" your presentation.

I'm fine w odeon not agreeing because of a very important reason: Him agreeing changes nothing. He is only 1 person.
In reality, 1 person does not matter. One vote does not matter. One person alone can change nothing, and so on. This is reality, away from the whole "But look at Gandhi!"-bullshit

It's not important to convince as many people as possible of the unfairness that goes on in the world. It is interesting, though. If someone wants to listen, it is fun to tell them interesting things.

But with your attitude, you seem as if you're trying to tell people something very important, to save their lives, and they refuse to listen, so you get furious at their ignorance. You have to calm down, cus it's not that important. Yes, several of the on-going wars are constructed and there is nnnothing you can do about it.
You can "raise awareness", but even that won't even ammount to anything.

To the doubters, my 5 additional cents:
What do you think is most likely?
That electronics manufacturers sit and twiddle their fingers, waiting desperately for a good conflict? That they thank Jesus every morning for Congo, praying to Jesus every evening that the Kivu conflict - that practically builds half their fortune - will not end any time soon?
Read up on the Kivu conflict, it is the 6th "sub-conflict" or so, to have continued from the 1993(?) Congo war, which is a further continuation of a 1960s conflict, which is pretty much the entire existence of that country. The entire existence.

And yes, there is such a thing as bad luck. Congo could just be having bad luck.
There is such a thing as good luck too. Finland has exceptionally good luck with Congo's bad luck.
And that's where I get suspicious, that these things work out so well.

As always, I can prove nothing, but this isn't some "deep dark secret". I'm talking about conflict minerals here. It's well known.

Much more obscure is the "real truth" of ISIS, for example. Here I am more unwilling to explore details, because there's less to explore. I just find it too convenient. At the beginning of the Iraq invasion I saw high tier statements claiming the US were "meant" to stay physically in Iraq indefinitely. "At least 50 years"
Ever since, it has been presented as a short lasting invasion, one that will end as soon as possible. Now it seems like the barely mentioned "50-year-plan" is actually in effect, but... "hidden", "secret"

Seems, mentioned, claimed, convenient, that's all I got really. But it's naive to think that people would "surely not" exploit a horrible situation such as war. Weapons manufacturers are #1 profiteers. "Surely they feel terrible about earning money from conflict! I mean, weapons manufacturers are hardly cynical people >:I"

I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2016, 06:18:15 AM »
Isis is constructed to maintain conflict.

Can I prove it? No. Conspiracy websites around the world fail at proving it, so I can only dream about that, but...
as a reality, it is obvious - they are constructed to maintain conflict.

Other similar situations are eastern Ukraine, where the conflict is constructed and maintained in order to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO (which in turn would allow Ukraine to use military threats to claim Crimea back again)
as well as various "mineral conflicts" in Africa, mainly eastern Congo (Kivu primarily)

I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2016, 06:56:53 AM »
 :yawn:
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2016, 12:07:47 PM »
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

- Albert Einstein

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2016, 12:18:24 PM »


Don't forget about the UVF, UDA and IRA.  :autism:

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2016, 12:37:09 PM »
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2016, 12:39:51 PM »


Last week, Some_Bloke's avatar was Karl Pilkington. This week it is Skeletor.

Which is it, Some_Bloke?  :tinfoil:

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2016, 12:41:59 PM »
Benji is trying a serious topic here. No need to discuss your avatars. :zoinks:
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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2016, 08:32:34 PM »
Benji is trying a serious topic here. No need to discuss your avatars. :zoinks:

I'm considering this one.  :orly:

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Re: ISIS realities
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2016, 09:05:25 PM »
Gophers don't exist outside of the Americas

Ergo, we don't have gophers :I