Raid

[odeon]

In fact, one of the reasons for the ever harshening gun laws is that the Europeans shaun't be able to defend themselves against these animals.

The main reason is that paranoid Nazi fucks such as yourself shouldn't be let anywhere near a gun. Come to think of it, you should be locked in. Again.

Nice gramophone  no comment on the topic though

The gramophone is a comment; in Sweden we call persons who constantly repeat themselves "broken gramophone records".

You should have it as a signature, then.

[El]

Judging from the way you rant on about guns, it was all Lennon's fault.

Know this: I consider your opinions utterly worthless at best, and actively harmful and dangerous at worst. The only reason why I'm engaging in these conversations is boredom. Well, and smacking you on the head with your own delusions, every now and then. You're like the traffic accident people must slow down to have a look at, even though they know that there's nothing they can do. They know that they'd probably help the human cause more by simply moving on and letting the paramedics deal with the dying corpses. But still they stop to see the burning flesh.

I think that tells us something about me, unfortunately.

I said that the murder of Lennon was not justified IMHO. I talk about when you hold real grudges against someone.

So if two sound-minded individuals hold real grudges against one another, which deserves to die?

[TheoK]

Judging from the way you rant on about guns, it was all Lennon's fault.

Know this: I consider your opinions utterly worthless at best, and actively harmful and dangerous at worst. The only reason why I'm engaging in these conversations is boredom. Well, and smacking you on the head with your own delusions, every now and then. You're like the traffic accident people must slow down to have a look at, even though they know that there's nothing they can do. They know that they'd probably help the human cause more by simply moving on and letting the paramedics deal with the dying corpses. But still they stop to see the burning flesh.

I think that tells us something about me, unfortunately.

I said that the murder of Lennon was not justified IMHO. I talk about when you hold real grudges against someone.

So if two sound-minded individuals hold real grudges against one another, which deserves to die?

They don't. One of them isn't a sound-minded person. The difficulty is to tell who is who.

[odeon]

So there can never be two sound-minded people holding real grudges against each other at any given time?

[TheoK]

So there can never be two sound-minded people holding real grudges against each other at any given time?

A deadly grudge between two people with totally sound minds is extremely unlikely. If someone wants to kill anyone, he's either a moron himself (like Chapman) or the person he wants to kill is one (a rapist, a murderer, a power-abuser).

[ANTON_UBER_ALLES]

Meh, we are not America or a violent 3rd world country. Things are pretty safe here in Australia. Sure crime happens but nothing to write home about compared to some places. I don't feel the need to carry a gun or a knife and I don't get bothered by other people much. If you want to carry a gun or a knife, go right ahead, I really don't give a shit.

Yeah. I hear that Australia is actually less violent than New Zealand. WTF is wrong with those fucking kiwi's?? Do white kiwis enjoy getting their asses kicked by Maori guys???

[odeon]

So there can never be two sound-minded people holding real grudges against each other at any given time?

A deadly grudge between two people with totally sound minds is extremely unlikely. If someone wants to kill anyone, he's either a moron himself (like Chapman) or the person he wants to kill is one (a rapist, a murderer, a power-abuser).

Two soldiers fight on opposite sides. The father of one of them participated in a raid that killed the other's family (collateral damage; hey, it happens). The other captured the father and executed him for war crimes.

They both followed orders, and they both want to kill the other.

[TheoK]

So there can never be two sound-minded people holding real grudges against each other at any given time?

A deadly grudge between two people with totally sound minds is extremely unlikely. If someone wants to kill anyone, he's either a moron himself (like Chapman) or the person he wants to kill is one (a rapist, a murderer, a power-abuser).

Two soldiers fight on opposite sides. The father of one of them participated in a raid that killed the other's family (collateral damage; hey, it happens). The other captured the father and executed him for war crimes.

They both followed orders, and they both want to kill the other.

Yes, it's likely in a war but not in peace time.

[odeon]

 

[TheoK]

We weren't discussing wars specifically. In a civil society in peace time it's very unlikely.

[odeon]

[Phlexor]

Meh, we are not America or a violent 3rd world country. Things are pretty safe here in Australia. Sure crime happens but nothing to write home about compared to some places. I don't feel the need to carry a gun or a knife and I don't get bothered by other people much. If you want to carry a gun or a knife, go right ahead, I really don't give a shit.

Yeah. I hear that Australia is actually less violent than New Zealand. WTF is wrong with those fucking kiwi's?? Do white kiwis enjoy getting their asses kicked by Maori guys???

I have no idea, but the white man sure fucked over their culture like they were bitches.

["couldbecousin"]

So there can never be two sound-minded people holding real grudges against each other at any given time?

A deadly grudge between two people with totally sound minds is extremely unlikely. If someone wants to kill anyone, he's either a moron himself (like Chapman) or the person he wants to kill is one (a rapist, a murderer, a power-abuser).

  But a grudge can be real without becoming deadly.  That's where the sound minds come into play.