Did Hilary encourage Donald Trump to run for president?

['Butterflies']

I think despite the attempt of The Republican GOP establishment, Trump will run against Hillary and will lose. I don't like Sanders BUT I think he was more honest than either of them.

As for digging on Hillary

The precise skills she based this on will allow her to be teflon for any accusations and skeletons Trump may bring to the fore.

Trump will have all the Kasich, Rubio, Cruz supporters abstaining or voting for Hillary. He is no chance to get in.

Trump is still playing that "You're fired" guy. The New York corporate bigshot BECAUSE that is all he has, poor bastard. He doesn't. "John you really tried your best in the challenge that was placed before you. It took you out of your comfort zone and tested the abilities that you had and I believe helped you develop some valuable skills. However there were a few mistakes made and a few others on your team seemed to show a bit more ingenuity and their result were a little better. Therefore I will have to advise you that unfortunately, I will have to let you go"

Not he is Donald Trump. Nuance and diplomacy are not his thing:

"You're fired!!!"

The thing is, is that the REASON Donald appeals is that he is this ballsy concise arrogant dickhead that seems to appeal to the common people. (Such people are far more easy to identify with than politician's politicians) BUT also he is a caricature. So recognisable. I am sure there are Americans who have NO idea who Ben Carson was nor John Kaisich nor Senator O'Malley BUT Trump? He is not even a politician. He is not a Senator. First bid for President, he HAS to be noticeable EVEN if it for the "wrong things".

To be completely honest, I do not think he is bigoted. I have heard for example that he supports and promote equality in his corporation for women and blacks and gays. However he will say dumb shit instead of thinking how it could be interpreted.

I heard today that he said "If they force a broker convention there will be riots in the street over this"
I am pretty sure that people will not riot over Donald and he meant. "people will be outraged" BUT it will be seen as inciting a riot. I heard that and laughed. Stupid call.

I liked Sanders. Well, I'm not sure I LIKED him. I agreed with his politics, but he just seemed a bit angry to really like Americans could never have handled him, because he's a *Shattner pause* Socialist SOCIALIST I mean that practically makes him a COMMUNIST  That must mean those pesky Ruskies are invading again


Now that it's all but certain to be a Trump v Hilary contest, I will make a friendly bet with you. We both agree Hilary is likely to win, but I bet you the race is significantly closer than you will expect, and by the time we get to polling day, Hilary's "reputation " will have been thoroughly trampled into the ground. The only thing that will see her limp over the line is the fact that thankfully enough people will just be too sane to vote for Trump.

Deal

 

And I will be reminding you of this after the election

I feel like I win in either case. In one I get kudos and smug satisfaction of knowing better and in the other Hillary gets a colossal amount of public smearing

Regardless of what way our bet goes, Hillary is going to get a lot of public smearing

[Parts]

He also believes is suing people 

Over the past few decades, the self-proclaimed “very rich” businessman has sued people, businesses and entire cities and countries. He’s sued a newspaper, his ex-wife, a quaint business card store in Georgia and a Native American tribe. He’s cried breach of contract, government favoritism, fraud, and libel.

Trump sues when he is made to feel small, insufficiently wealthy, threatened or mocked. He sues for sport, he sues to regain a sense of control, and he sues to make a point. He sues as a means of saying “you’re fired” to those he does not employ.

But he sues, most of all, to make headlines and to reinforce the notion that he is powerful. Below, I picked some of the highlights, through a review of news coverage of filed and threatened lawsuits.

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[QuéOnda]

I just wanted to say that I don't think that Trump is a racist. Yes, he said that he would build a wall against Mexico, but he also said that John McCain wasn't a war hero because he "Got captured". Both are outrageous statements, and he knew he would get attention from the both of them. He is just using this presidential run to draw attention to himself. Racists only care about their race. They want their race to "Win" and all other races to "Lose". This means that Donald Trump is not a racist. He's more of a "Selfist". He only cares about one white person, and that's Donald J. Trump, and the thing he likes more than anything is attention. He uses all his money and such to draw attention to himself. If he is elected president, he won't listen to any advisers. He'll do things his own way because in his mind, he's never wrong.

[Parts]

I just wanted to say that I don't think that Trump is a racist. Yes, he said that he would build a wall against Mexico, but he also said that John McCain wasn't a war hero because he "Got captured". Both are outrageous statements, and he knew he would get attention from the both of them. He is just using this presidential run to draw attention to himself. Racists only care about their race. They want their race to "Win" and all other races to "Lose". This means that Donald Trump is not a racist. He's more of a "Selfist". He only cares about one white person, and that's Donald J. Trump, and the thing he likes more than anything is attention. He uses all his money and such to draw attention to himself. If he is elected president, he won't listen to any advisers. He'll do things his own way because in his mind, he's never wrong.

  He wants the presidency for self promotion if he wins and what he does actually helps the country that will be incidental.

[benjimanbreeg]

It'd have been a good idea.  I can see it being Trump vs Clinton and people voting for the alleged lesser evil.  Trump's made more money out of this, so he doesn't care.  They are all parasites, they all support Israel. 

Trump is a maniac if he believes what he says, even though some of the things he says do make sense.
Hillary is a sick creature, who laughed about bombing people, and is like an APAIC groupie. 
Cruz said he'd "carpet bomb" Syria, but then has said that Libya and Iraq were better off before their Dictators were removed.
Sanders is a pathetic coward who hugs black Muslims for votes, while voting for and supporting wars that bomb the shit out of Muslims.  He's supported massacres in Gaza and shouted down a Palestinian activist and then started spewing out Israeli propaganda. 

[benjimanbreeg]

and most media outlets are heavily left leaning and all reporting is done deliberately through this bias.

Certainly not the case in Britain. Our populist tabloids are frothing at the mouth right wingers

That's not true.  They are continuously pushing multiculturalism.  To be honest, all this "left wing, right wing" stuff is nonsense, it's about the truth and the facts.  Our tabloids and media are all controlled and answer to the same corporations etc and are just competing for the best headlines.  Every single paper had a picture of that 'Turkish' boy that drowned on their front page and were hand in hand crowing for 'refugees' to pour into Europe, and the UK especially.  Yet all of the same papers forgot to put it on their front page or even in the paper when possible UK weapons were used to blow up children playing football on a beach in Gaza in 2014.  They all push people to fight against one another, rather than their financiers, and steer people's attention away from route causes of problems. 

[benjimanbreeg]

   Good picture Some_Bloke!

Same as here, I wouldn't vote in the US.  If someone asked we whether I wanted Aids or terminal cancer, or neither, i'd choose neither. 

There are serious issues with regards to mass immigration that do need addressing, and the more people support it, the worse these problems are going to get.  Mass immigration has been implemented to destroy the labor movement and divide the working class, as the people are the biggest obstacle to those with real power.  You can't control people so well when they are fighting alongside one another.  Better to create all these divisions and distract people. 

['Butterflies']

  Good picture Some_Bloke!

Same as here, I wouldn't vote in the US.  If someone asked we whether I wanted Aids or terminal cancer, or neither, i'd choose neither. 

There are serious issues with regards to mass immigration that do need addressing, and the more people support it, the worse these problems are going to get.  Mass immigration has been implemented to destroy the labor movement and divide the working class, as the people are the biggest obstacle to those with real power.  You can't control people so well when they are fighting alongside one another.  Better to create all these divisions and distract people.

It's hard to oppose immigration when these people are being slaughtered in their own countries. Dying by the boatload in their efforts to get to the Western world.

[benjimanbreeg]

That's not immigrants that's people seeking refuge, though in many cases they have already found refuge in other countries, yet still want to come to a tiny little island miles away.  Force Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar, Israel or Turkey to take them in.  They are being slaughtered by people who the US supported, so why should the people of the UK suffer? 

Also, you're ignoring the route causes, us just taking them in isn't going to solve anything.  Next it will be refugees from Yemen. 

['Butterflies']

That's not immigrants that's people seeking refuge, though in many cases they have already found refuge in other countries, yet still want to come to a tiny little island miles away.  Force Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar, Israel or Turkey to take them in.  They are being slaughtered by people who the US supported, so why should the people of the UK suffer? 

Also, you're ignoring the route causes, us just taking them in isn't going to solve anything.  Next it will be refugees from Yemen.

Yes, I probably am ignoring the root causes. I just don't feel we can blame the individual people for mistakes of our governments. They're in need. If we can help them, we should. Also, and I know I'm in the minority here, I don't think we're really suffering because of the migrants. I have no problem with foreigners. And yes, I know that maybe sounds rich coming from someone who lives in Hungary, which must be one of the whitest places in Europe

[benjimanbreeg]

That's not immigrants that's people seeking refuge, though in many cases they have already found refuge in other countries, yet still want to come to a tiny little island miles away.  Force Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar, Israel or Turkey to take them in.  They are being slaughtered by people who the US supported, so why should the people of the UK suffer? 

Also, you're ignoring the route causes, us just taking them in isn't going to solve anything.  Next it will be refugees from Yemen.

Yes, I probably am ignoring the root causes. I just don't feel we can blame the individual people for mistakes of our governments. They're in need. If we can help them, we should. Also, and I know I'm in the minority here, I don't think we're really suffering because of the migrants. I have no problem with foreigners. And yes, I know that maybe sounds rich coming from someone who lives in Hungary, which must be one of the whitest places in Europe

Sorry yes, *root causes*.  So you want this to continue?  Anyone supporting 'refugees' is complicit in this mess.  Who said anything about individual people?  They aren't "mistakes".  You seriously don't believe they keep invading or stirring up conflicts in these countries without realising what the effects are going to be?  Why does it always have to be the UK that pours people in, we now have a population bigger than France now and British people are now a minority in London.  Sorry, I care too much about the land, the people, and the wildlife to carry on turning us into a concrete jungle.  We have our own people suffering, waiting hours for ambulances and hospitals etc suffering in general.  Like you admit, it's easy for you to say we aren't suffering, when you've migrated yourself    Being against migration does not mean you "have a problem with foreigners", propaganda like that really needs to stop.  I love going to experience foreign cultures, but that will lose all its worth if our own country feel foreign.  People have a right to object and feel angry, we were never asked about this, and that's not democracy. 

['Butterflies']

That's not immigrants that's people seeking refuge, though in many cases they have already found refuge in other countries, yet still want to come to a tiny little island miles away.  Force Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar, Israel or Turkey to take them in.  They are being slaughtered by people who the US supported, so why should the people of the UK suffer? 

Also, you're ignoring the route causes, us just taking them in isn't going to solve anything.  Next it will be refugees from Yemen.

Yes, I probably am ignoring the root causes. I just don't feel we can blame the individual people for mistakes of our governments. They're in need. If we can help them, we should. Also, and I know I'm in the minority here, I don't think we're really suffering because of the migrants. I have no problem with foreigners. And yes, I know that maybe sounds rich coming from someone who lives in Hungary, which must be one of the whitest places in Europe

Sorry yes, *root causes*.  So you want this to continue?  Anyone supporting 'refugees' is complicit in this mess.  Who said anything about individual people?  They aren't "mistakes".  You seriously don't believe they keep invading or stirring up conflicts in these countries without realising what the effects are going to be?  Why does it always have to be the UK that pours people in, we now have a population bigger than France now and British people are now a minority in London.  Sorry, I care too much about the land, the people, and the wildlife to carry on turning us into a concrete jungle.  We have our own people suffering, waiting hours for ambulances and hospitals etc suffering in general.  Like you admit, it's easy for you to say we aren't suffering, when you've migrated yourself    Being against migration does not mean you "have a problem with foreigners", propaganda like that really needs to stop.  I love going to experience foreign cultures, but that will lose all its worth if our own country feel foreign.  People have a right to object and feel angry, we were never asked about this, and that's not democracy.

You seriously don't believe they keep invading or stirring up conflicts in these countries without realising what the effects are going to be?

Our governments fuck up. The British government is shit. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't help the people who suffer because of our governments fuck ups. In fact, I would say the opposite is true. If our government is partly responsible for the mess these peoples countries are in, then surely that means that we have a responsibility to help those who our government has played a role in fucking over.

We have our own people suffering, waiting hours for ambulances and hospitals etc suffering in general.

I believe that has more to do with a poor infrastructure. If our government put more money into public services, then these services could be improved, alleviating the problems you speak of.

Why does it always have to be the UK that pours people in

That simply just isn't true. WRT Europe, in absolute terms, Germany and France take in more refugees. Per capita, Britain actually takes in quite a low amount of refugees, behind countries such as Finland, Luxembourg, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Serbia, France, Netherlands, Cyprus, Austria, Switzerland, Norway, and Sweden.


WRT immigrant population, as opposed to refugee population, Britain is second in Europe, behind Germany, and only marginally ahead of France. However, per capita, we're behind Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland, Austria, Spain, and Norway.

[benjimanbreeg]

That's not immigrants that's people seeking refuge, though in many cases they have already found refuge in other countries, yet still want to come to a tiny little island miles away.  Force Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar, Israel or Turkey to take them in.  They are being slaughtered by people who the US supported, so why should the people of the UK suffer? 

Also, you're ignoring the route causes, us just taking them in isn't going to solve anything.  Next it will be refugees from Yemen.

Yes, I probably am ignoring the root causes. I just don't feel we can blame the individual people for mistakes of our governments. They're in need. If we can help them, we should. Also, and I know I'm in the minority here, I don't think we're really suffering because of the migrants. I have no problem with foreigners. And yes, I know that maybe sounds rich coming from someone who lives in Hungary, which must be one of the whitest places in Europe

Sorry yes, *root causes*.  So you want this to continue?  Anyone supporting 'refugees' is complicit in this mess.  Who said anything about individual people?  They aren't "mistakes".  You seriously don't believe they keep invading or stirring up conflicts in these countries without realising what the effects are going to be?  Why does it always have to be the UK that pours people in, we now have a population bigger than France now and British people are now a minority in London.  Sorry, I care too much about the land, the people, and the wildlife to carry on turning us into a concrete jungle.  We have our own people suffering, waiting hours for ambulances and hospitals etc suffering in general.  Like you admit, it's easy for you to say we aren't suffering, when you've migrated yourself    Being against migration does not mean you "have a problem with foreigners", propaganda like that really needs to stop.  I love going to experience foreign cultures, but that will lose all its worth if our own country feel foreign.  People have a right to object and feel angry, we were never asked about this, and that's not democracy.

You seriously don't believe they keep invading or stirring up conflicts in these countries without realising what the effects are going to be?

Our governments fuck up. The British government is shit. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't help the people who suffer because of our governments fuck ups. In fact, I would say the opposite is true. If our government is partly responsible for the mess these peoples countries are in, then surely that means that we have a responsibility to help those who our government has played a role in fucking over.

We have our own people suffering, waiting hours for ambulances and hospitals etc suffering in general.

I believe that has more to do with a poor infrastructure. If our government put more money into public services, then these services could be improved, alleviating the problems you speak of.

Why does it always have to be the UK that pours people in

That simply just isn't true. WRT Europe, in absolute terms, Germany and France take in more refugees. Per capita, Britain actually takes in quite a low amount of refugees, behind countries such as Finland, Luxembourg, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Serbia, France, Netherlands, Cyprus, Austria, Switzerland, Norway, and Sweden.


WRT immigrant population, as opposed to refugee population, Britain is second in Europe, behind Germany, and only marginally ahead of France. However, per capita, we're behind Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland, Austria, Spain, and Norway.

Again, why should "we" help people and suffer the consequences when we can't even look after our own people?  And again, they are not "fuck ups", they are fully intentional.  How about giving the British people the full facts and then letting them decide via a free and fair vote?  Why are you supporting such crooked policies?  I definitely want to see the people who control this country punished. 

"I believe that has more to do with a poor infrastructure. If our government put more money into public services, then these services could be improved, alleviating the problems you speak of."

What money?  We were £1.5 trillion in debt last time I looked.  The more immigrants and 'refugees', the more hospitals etc we need to build. 

I wasn't referring just to 'refugees' I said "people" we pour in.  We have the fastest growing population of all the main states in the EU.  I believe we are holding off until after we vote to stay in the EU, otherwise people are more likely to vote to get out.  Then there will be another PR front page alert which convinces the brainwashed to accept their fate and cheer for more 'refugees' to pour into the UK. 

[benjimanbreeg]

Nice to see you posting again anyway. 

[Bastet]

It would be funny if trump dropped out of the race making Hilary president by default.