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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #210 on: February 26, 2018, 05:57:54 PM »
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?

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They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!

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Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??

What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??

The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.

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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #211 on: February 26, 2018, 06:49:18 PM »
It's so nice to see things going down the personal attack road again.  :zoinks:

You only noticed now?

I don't get much time lately.  >:(
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #212 on: February 27, 2018, 12:53:30 AM »


Guns are designed to kill. Cars are designed to get you from A to B faster. It's a no-brainer to get rid of the former and improve the latter.



Other objects with utility are more safely constrained. I'm not postulating an equivalence here - but that the automobile
culture is, if anything, a worse problem. There might be areas where personal vehicles (and guns for that matter) are
the only reasonable solution - but that doesn't mean you need either in cities.

My very limited experience of the US suggests you need cars in (some of) your cities, too. There's no way to get from A to B without one. Guns, though? Where is that a reasonable solution to anything?
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #213 on: February 27, 2018, 12:57:12 AM »

A neurological issue causing his eye muscles to spasm. The only way to make the muscles stop is apparently to inject a nerve paralyser. Not an optimal solution.


I knew an epileptic who had a license.

Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #214 on: February 27, 2018, 12:58:39 AM »
Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"

Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.

A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.

The problem is ....................something. Right?

Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.

Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?
Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

There is a level of desperation in the idea. Anything but their precious guns.
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #215 on: February 27, 2018, 01:01:54 AM »
Also based on both guns who's to say that the teacher would even be able to fire off those shots before the AR-15 (45 rounds per min)?

 :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:      :facepalm2:

They're both semi-autos, they have the same firing rate you ignorant dipshit!!

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Not to mention you're asking a teacher, not a police officer nor a military professional to handle it. Who's to say they'll pull the trigger or hit the target?

And yes I know Trump said something along the lines of giving the teachers some level of training but that's simply a profession that's not used to handling firearms.

So you're saying it's impossible for teachers to be former military or police??

What if that teacher is a competition pistol shooter as a hobby??

The high school I went to had an indoor shooting range with teachers who were NRA trained marksmanship instructors.



"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

- Albert Einstein

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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #216 on: February 27, 2018, 07:43:19 PM »

My very limited experience of the US suggests you need cars in (some of) your cities, too. There's no way to get from A to B without one. Guns, though? Where is that a reasonable solution to anything?


Quite, but it's because of the political unwillingness to provide public transport, because of the car culture.




There are areas where public transport simply couldn't be effective.




Guns are the solution to more guns!

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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #217 on: February 27, 2018, 07:44:25 PM »


Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.


I can't think of anyone more deserving. It's the whole concept of blind justice, no?


Even if it's vigilante justice....

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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #218 on: February 28, 2018, 01:08:02 AM »


Sort of my point. There are also places in the US that grant gun permits to the blind.


I can't think of anyone more deserving. It's the whole concept of blind justice, no?


Even if it's vigilante justice....

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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #219 on: February 28, 2018, 11:22:47 PM »
And he still hasn't come back. :bigcry:
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #220 on: March 01, 2018, 12:24:28 AM »
He's probably afraid of rabies.

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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #221 on: March 01, 2018, 01:40:01 AM »
That must be it.
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #222 on: March 01, 2018, 07:03:37 PM »
People love my rabies.  >:(
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #223 on: March 02, 2018, 02:09:08 AM »
People love my rabies.  >:(

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But of course.
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Re: FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.
« Reply #224 on: March 02, 2018, 10:13:18 AM »
Maybe he's not a people then?