FourAceDeal's possibly less than adequate first post.

[odeon]

False assumptions based on bigotry. Fucking hell what a moron you are.

The odeot thinks that calling Chinese people civilized is waaasist!!

For odeot's information, there are currently 40+ young Chinese men living in my condo complex.

Am I afraid if I walk out at night and see them loitering around?? No, because I know they're not ghetto trash.

If I had the same number of young "African-American" men in my complex, I'd fucking move tomorrow, along with everyone else in my complex because we all know what would follow. First would be the loud music at 2 am followed by break-ins, drug dealing, violence and squalor.

The Chinese are good neighbors. Niggers?? not so much.

Oh and one more thing. The former resident of my unit was a nigger couple. They trashed this unit so badly that it took 3 pages to document all the damage. I'm guessing it took at least $10K to fix all the damage before I moved in. I can take pictures of repair notes and post them if anyone is interested.

Bigot. What a sad case you are.

[odeon]

Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

[Calandale]

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

It's pretty minor. I prefer teacher with a chem lab vs. student with an assault rifle.


Much more interesting.

It's the fairness of it that makes it good.

I don't mind FAIR, per se, but I want something interesting. Not two cowboys dueling it
out with the exact same weapons - you can't learn anything from that. Give me some
cestus vs. hopolmachus action.

[Al Swearegen]

Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"

Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.

A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.

The problem is ....................something. Right?

[odeon]

Meh, both sides have the same victory conditions in a duel. I prefer assymetrical sports.

Teacher with a handgun vs student with an assault rifle should be right up your alley then.

For the 4,628,496th time, an AR-15 is NOT an "assault rifle".

Assault rifles are by definition, capable of full auto fire.

A well trained person with a handgun can, at very minimum, tie up the shooter while reinforcements arrive. Most schools would create a tactical situation where the teacher can engage the gunman inside of 100 yards, well within the range of a handgun, which would even the odds.

https://www.charlottefive.com/arming-teachers/

Anything but your precious guns.

This is the problem. I find myself having to force myself into whether to engage in this or not. I am thinking on one side "It has nothing to do with you. This is America and you are in Australia. Fuck those Seppos"

Then I go back to brass tacks and look at this logically and detached.

A child walks into the school with an Ar-15 rifle and a teacher is alerted to the commotion and pulls out a colt-45. she sees the threat and fires 4 shots and one wounds, and one kills the target.

The problem is ....................something. Right?

Yes, namely that the kid got hold of an AR-15 to begin with.

[Calandale]

A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.

[Jack]

A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.

That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.

And in the same study, non-LEO's who engaged the shooter only had a 3% casualty rate. 

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Bigot. What a sad case you are.

You know you're beating the shit out of a Libtard in a debate when all they can do is call you a bigot. 

[Calandale]

A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.

That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.

It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.

[odeon]

According to an FBI study about active shooter situations, police officers who engaged the shooter were wounded or killed in 46.7 percent of the incidents. We’re talking about individuals who are specifically trained to respond to these situations and not teachers trained over the the weekend or during summer break.

And in the same study, non-LEO's who engaged the shooter only had a 3% casualty rate. 

Not sure about you, but I'd not consider a career in teaching if this went through.

I guess you didn't read the rest of the article.

[odeon]

Bigot. What a sad case you are.

You know you're beating the shit out of a Libtard in a debate when all they can do is call you a bigot. 

Bigoted AND deluded.

[odeon]

Funny, btw. Scrap's posts lately have been mostly LOLs, ROFLs and LMAOs, a fair bit of bigotry, pointing out the important distinction that the AR-15 is not an assault rifle, various misconceptions about the US constitution, and, of course, a fair bit of name-calling directed at me. Yet he seems to think that he is engaged in a "debate".

If he is in any way representative of the pro-gun, bought-by-the-NRA conservative right, I can certainly see why the mass shootings will continue for the foreseeable future.

[Jack]

A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.

That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.

It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.

What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?

[Calandale]

A friend of mine was looking up school mass shootings dating back to the one in the 60's - and found the majority were done with handguns.

That makes sense because they're easier to conceal.

It doesn't hurt that the definition of a 'mass shooting' is only four people.

What would be a better number for the definition of mass murder?

I dunno. Maybe 10?


4 shot is a local news story in most cases. The events that make the
national headlines are when the body count is higher.


But, I don't know that the definition needs to change. It's just more difficult to take
out larger numbers with a handgun. If you raise that number a little, the total (already
low) number of deaths due to mass shootings drops dramatically,