Paris

[El]

Jesus.

WTF.

[Jack]

That's very interesting about France.

[Al Swearegen]

It's terrible 145 dead and 250 wounded

['andersom']

Horrible.

Very strategic planning. Striking at seven places around the same time. They thought it out well.

IS claimed the deeds.

[Icequeen]

Been avoiding the news lately, just pulled it up. 

[Pyraxis]

I still don't understand why the French are such assholes about forbidding the niqab. It's like they're trying to wind up extremists.

['andersom']

I only noticed this morning, reading the newspaper. My main source of news. Plus some MSN feed, but that is more mud than news.
Now looked into it a bit more.
Find that I am thinking about it a lot today.
The guerilla like tactic, hitting on so many spots at the same time is scary.
Also it is so easy to think up places where they could hit hard and dramatically, on "minor" targets.

['andersom']

And, it has effect. Poland stated they will not harbour any new refugees, because of Paris. Those refugees are running from the same shit that is causing what is happening in Paris.

[benjimanbreeg]

Stuff like this happens in the Middle East all the time, no one cares, until they want to start a war of course. 

Those "refugees" though are mostly young men and not even from Syria.  We need to just stop creating refugees or the excuse for further flooding of Europe. 

[Jack]

It's like they're trying to wind up extremists.

Christians have equal power as voters and Christianity a great deal of influential power within the US government. Maybe France can see it coming.

['andersom']

It's like they're trying to wind up extremists.

Christians have equal power as voters and Christianity a great deal of influential power within the US government. Maybe France can see it coming.

France has a big Muslim community. Talking about non extremist Muslims. They have the power to vote too.

Of the European countries, France is the one with the most bad blood in Northern Africa. And who knows, of all European countries, I think France is the one to have "freedom" the highest in their identity profile.

[Jack]

It's like they're trying to wind up extremists.

Christians have equal power as voters and Christianity a great deal of influential power within the US government. Maybe France can see it coming.

France has a big Muslim community. Talking about non extremist Muslims. They have the power to vote too.

Of the European countries, France is the one with the most bad blood in Northern Africa. And who knows, of all European countries, I think France is the one to have "freedom" the highest in their identity profile.

Yes, hence my first response to this thread, as was reminded of previous conversation. Of the world superpowers, France is the one with political leaders openly displaying racial and religious based motivations. Can only assume it's for a purpose, assume they're being allowed within the UN, and maybe even supposed to do it. Europe eventually has to stop spreading it arms to immigration, and climactic disturbances will justify those actions of cessation. The proverbial shit will hit the fan, and Jack thinks it will happen in France.

['andersom']

Immigration is a thing of all times. Even mass immigration. Sometimes wanted, slavery, inviting workers from other countries, sometimes not so wanted in the form of refugees. I don't think it can be stopped. Closing borders and wanting to keep everything the way it is is not going to happen. Change happens.
How to deal with the immigration is another thing.

Sometimes think my country did not learn a thing from what went wrong in the seventies of last century, now making similar mistakes.

[Gopher Gary]

Europe eventually has to stop spreading it arms to immigration,

I think you meant legs. 

[Jack]

Immigration is a thing of all times. Even mass immigration. Sometimes wanted, slavery, inviting workers from other countries, sometimes not so wanted in the form of refugees. I don't think it can be stopped. Closing borders and wanting to keep everything the way it is is not going to happen. Change happens.
How to deal with the immigration is another thing.

Sometimes think my country did not learn a thing from what went wrong in the seventies of last century, now making similar mistakes.

EU countries were not long ago quite difficult to gain legal citizenship; there's nothing stopping that from being the case again. As you stated, Poland may no longer accept refugees. Wasn't necessarily referring to closed boarders, but the boarders of France are currently closed.