Iran

[benjimanbreeg]

Why can't Iran have nukes, when other countries have them?  Pointed out in this video, how many countries have Iran attacked in the last 10-20 years?  America have them and how many countries haven't they attacked in the last 20 years? 

Bibi Netanyahu has some front talking about nukes, when they go into Gaza every couple of years to "mow the lawn", and have poured white phosphorus over schools and hospitals, as well as a leading Israeli historian saying that they have European capitals as targets for their nukes and if anyone tries to bring them down, they'll bring us down with them.  Talk about double standards....

[ZEGH8578]

Even North Korea has nukes, and a sworn enemy even, and no nuclear holocaust.

Everyone who knows something about nukes, know about "MAD", Mutually Assured Destruction, so, eh... it makes no difference if a country has nukes, they aren't gonna be more likely to use them offensively than anyone else - North Korea, the grand pariah of the world, being the best example.

With Israel most likely having nukes, MAD becomes even more relevant, since Israel is Iran's "sworn enemy", meaning, it is very unlikely Iran will be an offender with nukes, knowing full well that Israel has the capacity to retaliate thoroughly.

[MLA]

they go into Gaza every couple of years to "mow the lawn", and have poured white phosphorus over schools and hospitals

You answered your own question.  They can't have nukes because they would use them.

[MLA]

With Israel most likely having nukes, MAD becomes even more relevant, since Israel is Iran's "sworn enemy", meaning, it is very unlikely Iran will be an offender with nukes, knowing full well that Israel has the capacity to retaliate thoroughly.

MAD only works if both sides can obliterate all life on the planet.  Iran and Isreal obliterating each other causes a lot of inconvenience for the rest of us, and could poison an entire continent that the rest of us want to use.  When the leaders of both countries can order launches from a beach in the Bahamas, the deterrence calculus isn't the same.

[ZEGH8578]

With Israel most likely having nukes, MAD becomes even more relevant, since Israel is Iran's "sworn enemy", meaning, it is very unlikely Iran will be an offender with nukes, knowing full well that Israel has the capacity to retaliate thoroughly.

MAD only works if both sides can obliterate all life on the planet. Iran and Isreal obliterating each other causes a lot of inconvenience for the rest of us, and could poison an entire continent that the rest of us want to use.  When the leaders of both countries can order launches from a beach in the Bahamas, the deterrence calculus isn't the same.

It should be enough that the other side can obliterate important cultural centres of your civilization - your country. I guess the leaders can gamble to throw the future of their country to the dogs - but they better have a good retirement plan, if so. I mean, there's a reason even Bush jr didn't just launch nukes at Iran, or Iraq, or Russia for that matter - MAD/crushing unpopularity back home forcing him to either step down, or do a coup. They're very few and far between those leaders so ruthless and cynical, they're willing to destroy their entire nation, and turn it to complete gravel. I can only think of Hitler right now, and that decision made him commit suicide, no ammount of Bahamas hide-aways could save him from the utter destruction of his homeland.

[odeon]

they go into Gaza every couple of years to "mow the lawn", and have poured white phosphorus over schools and hospitals

You answered your own question.  They can't have nukes because they would use them.

He is a bit slow, you know.

[MLA]

but they better have a good retirement plan, if so. I mean, there's a reason even Bush jr didn't just launch nukes at Iran, or Iraq, or Russia for that matter - MAD/crushing unpopularity back home forcing him to either step down, or do a coup. They're very few and far between those leaders so ruthless and cynical, they're willing to destroy their entire nation, and turn it to complete gravel. I can only think of Hitler right now, and that decision made him commit suicide, no ammount of Bahamas hide-aways could save him from the utter destruction of his homeland.

Their retirement plan is 72 virgins.  Death is not an obstacle.  I'm pretty sure that Ali Khamenei would view the obliteration of his entire country in holy jew-killing fire to be nothing more than their deliverance unto a loving Allah who will reward them all with lots of awkward pre-teen sex.

[MLA]

And if Pakistan is overrun by ISIS, holy shit 

[Arya Quinn]

Even North Korea has nukes, and a sworn enemy even, and no nuclear holocaust.

North Korea's nuclear arsenal is nothing compared to the arsenal the US has. North Korea would only be able to take out one American state at best whereas the US could obliterate the entire country.

Of course, not without a lot of radiation spilling into South Korea and China. The US is allies with South Korea and they do not want to piss off China.

Bibi Netanyahu has some front talking about nukes, when they go into Gaza every couple of years to "mow the lawn", and have poured white phosphorus over schools and hospitals, as well as a leading Israeli historian saying that they have European capitals as targets for their nukes and if anyone tries to bring them down, they'll bring us down with them.  Talk about double standards....

Because the US and Israel are best buddies. As long as you're best buddies with the US you can get away with anything. If you're not, the second you commit a crime against humanity, you're not in the Western World and you have oil, rest assured the US and it's best buddy the UK will be all over your country like a British MP over a child.

[Bastet]

but they better have a good retirement plan, if so. I mean, there's a reason even Bush jr didn't just launch nukes at Iran, or Iraq, or Russia for that matter - MAD/crushing unpopularity back home forcing him to either step down, or do a coup. They're very few and far between those leaders so ruthless and cynical, they're willing to destroy their entire nation, and turn it to complete gravel. I can only think of Hitler right now, and that decision made him commit suicide, no ammount of Bahamas hide-aways could save him from the utter destruction of his homeland.

Their retirement plan is 72 virgins.  Death is not an obstacle.  I'm pretty sure that Ali Khamenei would view the obliteration of his entire country in holy jew-killing fire to be nothing more than their deliverance unto a loving Allah who will reward them all with lots of awkward pre-teen sex.

Israel army rides out T-shirt row





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7960071.stm

[Arya Quinn]

but they better have a good retirement plan, if so. I mean, there's a reason even Bush jr didn't just launch nukes at Iran, or Iraq, or Russia for that matter - MAD/crushing unpopularity back home forcing him to either step down, or do a coup. They're very few and far between those leaders so ruthless and cynical, they're willing to destroy their entire nation, and turn it to complete gravel. I can only think of Hitler right now, and that decision made him commit suicide, no ammount of Bahamas hide-aways could save him from the utter destruction of his homeland.

Their retirement plan is 72 virgins.  Death is not an obstacle.  I'm pretty sure that Ali Khamenei would view the obliteration of his entire country in holy jew-killing fire to be nothing more than their deliverance unto a loving Allah who will reward them all with lots of awkward pre-teen sex.

Israel army rides out T-shirt row





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7960071.stm

It's so fucking obvious what the Israelis want, and what they're doing. I am both amazed and disgusted that the IDF's campaign of genocide is supported so blindly by the rest of the world.

[Bastet]

but they better have a good retirement plan, if so. I mean, there's a reason even Bush jr didn't just launch nukes at Iran, or Iraq, or Russia for that matter - MAD/crushing unpopularity back home forcing him to either step down, or do a coup. They're very few and far between those leaders so ruthless and cynical, they're willing to destroy their entire nation, and turn it to complete gravel. I can only think of Hitler right now, and that decision made him commit suicide, no ammount of Bahamas hide-aways could save him from the utter destruction of his homeland.

Their retirement plan is 72 virgins.  Death is not an obstacle.  I'm pretty sure that Ali Khamenei would view the obliteration of his entire country in holy jew-killing fire to be nothing more than their deliverance unto a loving Allah who will reward them all with lots of awkward pre-teen sex.

Israel army rides out T-shirt row





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7960071.stm

It's so fucking obvious what the Israelis want, and what they're doing. I am both amazed and disgusted that the IDF's campaign of genocide is supported so blindly by the rest of the world.

Or here.

[Arya Quinn]

I weep for humanity.

[Bastet]

When enough people get pissed off at what is going on then the shit hits the fan and things are forced to change back. You can't control reality. The universe resets itself and dickslaps the tyrants who try to exploit everyone.

[benjimanbreeg]

they go into Gaza every couple of years to "mow the lawn", and have poured white phosphorus over schools and hospitals

You answered your own question.  They can't have nukes because they would use them.f

No i didn't.  And you quoted me like i was asking why Israel couldn't have them. Apart from Israeli propaganda, what evidence suggests Iran would use nukes?  Israel goes on about the danger of Iran having them when Israel has used chemical weapons on schools and hospitals.

Also, the US have used nukes, why are they allowed them?