Sensitive?

[Hannah]

wow, a lot has been said sense I've been away...

To Jack the thread about God Loves was actually a blog post that from now on I'll be mindful to keep on my blog, it in no way was meant to be pushy or rude...it was something that I actually sat down and through for and about for a long while before posting...also Jack you make good points and allow any poster to 'think outside the box' and I appreciate that about you, and other members here...

To Oden: I in no way see you as any thing else then a great admin, don't feel the need to sit on your hands, I've come across many whom are not of any faith on the ASD spectrum...

To all: Well I am attempting to think before I post, good rule of thumb, why do I post here and about the content that I do? well I honestly haven't found a more honest group of people period that actually keep myself in check. The 'gushing posts' are just because I think and post what I think, and have been thinking about how that might affect others which this thread is a great reminder of...

on a lighter note, it's also a great place to let my hair down, and you all crack me up  and I love the individual people that are on another PC somewhere that in rich this forum as a whole...I'm a lot tougher then you all think, I don't take offence to much anything...a lot more easy going and I like sharing that fact with others, as well as how to put it...'I like you guys so much that I sit too close' metaphorically speaking (it's what I did when I was a kid and liked someone, sat really close to them) kid was all like uhh who's this weirdo? 

Don't feel the need to walk on egg shells please by all means be yourselves 

[Jack]

Jack is thinking about the parakeet.

[odeon]

Well, Hannah, several things...

It's "odeon", not "oden", even though in this context the latter would have made sense. The name is a reference to my home cinema.

I'm glad you don't consider yourself to be sensitive. This thread didn't happen solely because of your threads involving make-believe in the clouds, even though one of your posts triggered it. It's a reaction to what I perceive as egg shells sometimes surrounding the whole subject, something to be minded if you don't necessarily want to break them all but would like to engage in a bit more than a polite discussion.

Please don't remove posts. There is no need to.

[Hannah]

a miss spell 

['andersom']

Well, Hannah, several things...

It's "odeon", not "oden", even though in this context the latter would have made sense. The name is a reference to my home cinema.

I'm glad you don't consider yourself to be sensitive. This thread didn't happen solely because of your threads involving make-believe in the clouds, even though one of your posts triggered it. It's a reaction to what I perceive as egg shells sometimes surrounding the whole subject, something to be minded if you don't necessarily want to break them all but would like to engage in a bit more than a polite discussion.

Please don't remove posts. There is no need to.

Odin better? 

[El]

I (in general- much less here than IRL) often find myself holding back from even disclosing my atheism, let alone discussing it, largely because I don't see it as productive.  I'm not going to talk any religious people out of being religious, and I don't want to anyway.  And, unfortunately, experience had taught me that religious people do often try to convert you if they know you aren't "a believer" or however they identify.  Especially with certain brands of protestantism (ex. "born again," evangelical, etc) a very strong culture of, essentially, pushiness. 

For me, it's annoying and unwanted when someone pushes religion on me, even to tell me god loves me or I am in their prayers or whatever, but I know it is usually well-meant, so I try to take it as that:  a (religiously) spazzy well-wish.  That's how I've been perceiving Hannah.  Some of her persona is probably a front, a fair bit of it is her own version of spazziness, but I do think she's primarily trying to be nice and trying to be liked, and religion is her thing.  Not my cup of tea but if it makes her happy, that's great, and as far as I can see she's not hurting anyone.

[Al Swearegen]

Most people here aren't religious. Most treat religion with a kind of "as long as they keep it to themselves" attitude.

[MLA]

I think it's rather simple.  Jesus-freaks are welcome to write whatever they want about their beliefs, and the damned-sinners are equally welcome to respond with whatever they want about their beliefs.  Nobody is "right", and nobody is "wrong" for believing differently.  I haven't been around in a while, so I'm not really familiar with all the background here, but I think what Odeon is getting at is the double standard that applies where it's not PC for a disbeliever to disagree with a believer, especially if that person has displayed sensitivities in the past.  I'll be the first to admit that I trolled the 'keet pretty hard, but it wasn't because of his beliefs.  It was because he was a twat.  His beliefs were just his soft underbelly waiting for a swift kick with sharp boots.

I would never engage in the kind of conversation they would, where I thought I could talk someone over to "my side", but if they start that discussion I feel within my right to poke a little fun at them.  They get something out of their end, why shouldn't I get something out of mine?

I disagree with any double standard.  This isn't a damn support-forum.

[WolFish]

I don't get why religion that involves a god or gods is so often treated differently than other practices. Another definition: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group. Doesn't this definition make trolling, or child pornography a religion? The problem is that when enforcement takes place, it's usually against the "unbeliever."

We have some kind of social conditioning that makes us think it's bad to step on religion even if its absurd, so long as there is a socially approved god concerned. On a television program I saw a man argue that pedophelia was his religion. They still kicked him out of the country.

For me this kind of thing is a matter of safety. I'd rather not incur the wrath of someone who wants to kill me so I do step carefully. I also step carefully if the person seems impaired - dangerous for many reasons. On the other hand, if they come pushing things at me and won't go away, I'm likely just to use logic to shut them up. I've found that the more simplistic the attempt, the more likely it is that 1) I won't be able to have an intelligent conversation, and 2) I'll have a much easier time asking questions that leave them scratching their heads while I make my getaway.

However I too agree about the double standard, because that's what it is. In the U.S. there are abundant examples of it. Many religious beliefs are backed by law and by social policing. I don't know about other countries, but maybe that's what makes us walk on eggshells?

[Jack]

I'll be the first to admit that I trolled the 'keet pretty hard, but it wasn't because of his beliefs. 

Was just thinking about him because he didn't come here trolling with religion, or bringing it up at all, but some members still tried to spark that contention with him; not sure if that was you too.

engage in a bit more than a polite discussion.

Thanks for bringing this up, Odeon.

[MLA]

I'll be the first to admit that I trolled the 'keet pretty hard, but it wasn't because of his beliefs. 

Was just thinking about him because he didn't come here trolling with religion, or bringing it up at all, but some members still tried to spark that contention with him; not sure if that was you too.

engage in a bit more than a polite discussion.

Thanks for bringing this up, Odeon.

Yes, I attacked him on religion.  But I was provoked by his homophobic preaching on that other site I was moderating at the time.

[Jack]

I'll be the first to admit that I trolled the 'keet pretty hard, but it wasn't because of his beliefs. 

Was just thinking about him because he didn't come here trolling with religion, or bringing it up at all, but some members still tried to spark that contention with him; not sure if that was you too.

engage in a bit more than a polite discussion.

Thanks for bringing this up, Odeon.

Yes, I attacked him on religion.  But I was provoked by his homophobic preaching on that other site I was moderating at the time.

Wasn't talking about you. Trying to be subtle and you're ruining it. Odeon thinks the eggshells surround the subject, not the person.

[Al Swearegen]

I'm sensitive. Hold me. Hold me tight.

['andersom']

I'm sensitive. Hold me. Hold me tight.

Awwwwwwww.

 

[odeon]

Well, Hannah, several things...

It's "odeon", not "oden", even though in this context the latter would have made sense. The name is a reference to my home cinema.

I'm glad you don't consider yourself to be sensitive. This thread didn't happen solely because of your threads involving make-believe in the clouds, even though one of your posts triggered it. It's a reaction to what I perceive as egg shells sometimes surrounding the whole subject, something to be minded if you don't necessarily want to break them all but would like to engage in a bit more than a polite discussion.

Please don't remove posts. There is no need to.

Odin better?