The devastating impact of vaccine deniers, in one measles chart

[Arya Quinn]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/22/the-devastating-impact-of-vaccine-deniers-in-one-measles-chart/

If you want to quantify the alarming impact of the anti-vaccine movement, the chart above is a good place to start. It plots the cumulative number of new measles cases by month, for each year from 2001 to 2014.

There were 644 new measles cases in 27 states last year, according to the CDC. That's the biggest annual number we've seen in nearly a quarter-century. The vast majority of people who contracted the disease were unvaccinated, including the dozens of cases related to an outbreak at Disneyland in Orange County, California, which is basically Ground Zero in our current epidemic of anti-vaccine hysteria.

A 2014 AP-GfK survey found that only 51 percent of Americans were confident that vaccines are safe and effective, which is similar to the proportion who believe that houses can be haunted by ghosts. I don't need to make the case about how harmful these beliefs are -- it's been done plenty of times before, and moreover studies show that arguing with anti-vaxxers only makes them more confident in their beliefs.

But the latest CDC data illustrate the troubling resurgence of a disease that, as of 2000, had been declared eliminated. Anti-vaxxers are quite literally turning back the clock on decades of public health progress.

Jesus Christ. I knew it was bad but this is something else. Way to throw decades of hard work out the window, you ant-vaxxing cunts! 

Terrorists using biological weapons aren't going to wipe us out, it will be these fuckers. They are not anti-vaccine. They are pro-disease.


 
3-foot long coffins in pink or fire-engine red is what I think of when I hear about the anti-vaccine movement. Fucking neglectful morons.

[Phallacy]

“Duh, huh huh...”
—Mokura, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

This is the thought of one of the more obscure enemies from Super Mario RPG when you use Mallow's Psychopath move on him. What does that have to do with this thread? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

But what I'm trying to say is, that thought, by the green fart cloud looking thing, is far more coherent and rational than any bullshit argument vomited out by any anti-vaxxer I have ever seen.

There are also AIDs denialists out there, believe it or not. People will deny anyfuckingthingnomatterwhat in order to push their shitty worldview to others.

[Arya Quinn]

But what I'm trying to say is, that thought, by the green fart cloud looking thing, is far more coherent and rational than any bullshit argument vomited out by any anti-vaxxer I have ever seen.

I'm far more likely to trust the green fart cloud looking thing than any anti-vaxxer around children.

There are also AIDs denialists out there, believe it or not. People will deny anyfuckingthingnomatterwhat in order to push their shitty worldview to others.

Isn't that basically religion?

"Science? Pha! It's our imaginary sky-God who done all that!"

[ZEGH8578]

How annoying...

It kindov reminds me of traffic. You can follow the rules, drive carefully, and mind all the signs - and then some asshole slams right into you from the side, and coughs fresh measles in your face.

[Queen Victoria]

Growing up I can remember having Chicken Pox, Measles, Mumps, Influenza, and Whooping Cough.  I didn't receive the full vaccination series because I had a bad reaction after my second shot.  The PR has had all her shots.  The illnesses are no fun.

[Parts]

I was vaccinated for measles twice once at the normal age then again in college because my vaccination records got lost and I needed them when I transferred schools. 

I also get a very bad reaction to the tetanus vaccine  and argue with the doctors who always want to give out the boosters early, after just 3 years or less,  rather than every 6-10 years which they are supposes to last

['andersom']

I was vaccinated for measles twice once at the normal age then again in college because my vaccination records got lost and I needed them when I transferred schools. 

I also get a very bad reaction to the tetanus vaccine  and argue with the doctors who always want to give out the boosters early, after just 3 years or less,  rather than every 6-10 years which they are supposes to last

I got vaccinated with a pertussis, tetanus, diphtheria, and poliomyelitis cocktail.
Got vaccinated for smallpox too. My younger brothers didn't get that one.

And at the age of eleven, all girls from my class took a trip to the health centre to be vaccinated with a rubella strand.

Bit more than four years ago, I got a new tetanus shot.

So, I did get mumps, measles and chicken pox. Of course got flu too. Mumps and chicken pox were the most annoying. Probably also because I was older by then.

When my kids were young, pertussis, whooping cough, was happening everywhere, despite high vaccination percentage. Viruses do change. There was this weird woman, wanting to visit me, after youngest was just born, only a few weeks old, before any vaccination had happened, while her kid had pertussis. I asked her if she was out of her mind.

Did my best to have my kids infected with chickenpox at an early age. It gets worse and more dangerous the older the patient is. Had to try really hard to get them infected. Oldest did get it in the end, after playing in a pool with infected kids for a whole afternoon.
Chickenpox are not in a vaccination program, here in the Netherlands. Measles, mumps and rubella are.



My youngest has not completed her whole vaccination program yet. Anxiety is that big that even doctors do not suggest anything to do with needles when she is in the vicinity. 
A decade ago, I would not have worried about that, with a high percentage of people being vaccinated. But I do not know if the percentage is high enough.

(Of course, my youngest is the one without an autism diagnosis. )

[RageBeoulve]

But what I'm trying to say is, that thought, by the green fart cloud looking thing, is far more coherent and rational than any bullshit argument vomited out by any anti-vaxxer I have ever seen.

I'm far more likely to trust the green fart cloud looking thing than any anti-vaxxer around children.

There are also AIDs denialists out there, believe it or not. People will deny anyfuckingthingnomatterwhat in order to push their shitty worldview to others.

Isn't that basically religion?

"Science? Pha! It's our imaginary sky-God who done all that!"

Yes. Yes it is.

[renaeden]

I have had all vaccines apart from rubella. I was away from school the day that all the girls had to line up to get it.

I get a free flu vaccine every year because I have asthma. I have not been sick with anything for the past three years.

I had chicken pox when I was five and then again when I was 20. That last time I had it was horrible. I felt bloody awful - sore all over. I just started a new job though so I had to turn up, couldn't take sick days. I only had a couple of pox on my face. I had lots on my scalp, back and belly. Strangest though, was that I had them on the soles of my feet as well. Sooo itchy. The doctor was fascinated by that. He had me tested to see if I was immune to chicken pox afterwards. I wasn't. So I can get it again if exposed to it.

[Queen Victoria]

When we moved back to Louisiana from Texas we had to be vaccinated for small pox.  The shots never took, so we would have to go back for re-vaccination.  This continued until we had the mumps.  Then the shots took.  We also tested positive for having had tuberculosis antibodies.  Go figure.

[Jack]

Jesus Christ. I knew it was bad but this is something else. Way to throw decades of hard work out the window, you ant-vaxxing cunts! 

Terrorists using biological weapons aren't going to wipe us out, it will be these fuckers. They are not anti-vaccine. They are pro-disease.


 
3-foot long coffins in pink or fire-engine red is what I think of when I hear about the anti-vaccine movement. Fucking neglectful morons.

Just today ran across the CDC graph used to create the graph in this article, and the journalist left out a poignant bit of information. Almost a full two-thirds of the cases in 2014 were related to a single outbreak among the unvaccinated amish. The amish aren't anti-vaccine for fear of autism, and an outbreak like that could have happened during any year. An increase of aprox 100 cases within a three year span in a country the size of the US isn't a number to be feared or even considered remarkable. The only outbreaks able to find, which have been classified as levels to be considered a dramatic increase occurred in France, which experienced very few cases in 2007 but over 20,000 from 08-11. Can't really say it's bad for the media to blame measles on anti-vaccine views because the actual slight increases are likely connected, but US 2014 was the year of the amish.
http://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html#outbreaks

This is what I read about France. This page also has good graphs
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/3/12-1360_article

Global measles stats are interesting too, both the graph and map on this link are interesting.
http://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/burden/vpd/surveillance_type/active/measles/en/

[Jack]

Also, on the point of the most recent outbreak related to Disneyland, the park averages over 40,000 visitors per day. It's estimated 3% of the vaccinated still aren't immune to the measles and an estimated 90% of those without immunity will become infected if exposed, so sure, toss the virus into that type of environment and it's logical at least a couple people will walk away infected on a given day and then potentially 3% of the people they later come in contact will have a 90% chance of being infected, even in a perfect scenario where 100% are immunized.