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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #105 on: January 20, 2015, 11:30:47 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

David Cameron?
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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #106 on: January 21, 2015, 09:29:34 AM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

David Cameron?

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #107 on: January 21, 2015, 09:52:58 AM »
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David Cameron?

He can take Gideon with him too!

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #108 on: January 21, 2015, 11:04:28 AM »
 :heisenberg: It can be arranged.
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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #110 on: January 22, 2015, 10:01:41 AM »
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

- Albert Einstein

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #111 on: January 23, 2015, 06:46:28 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

Large government. Racism. Race baiting. Feminism. Male rights advocacy. Truthers of all kinds. Certain welfare programs. War. Nuclear weapons. I could do this all day. XD
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They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2015, 07:54:41 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

Large government. Racism. Race baiting. Feminism. Male rights advocacy. Truthers of all kinds. Certain welfare programs. War. Nuclear weapons. I could do this all day. XD

The list will go on for ages.  :M

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #113 on: January 23, 2015, 08:29:23 PM »
Large government. Racism. Race baiting. Feminism. Male rights advocacy. Truthers of all kinds. Certain welfare programs. War. Nuclear weapons. I could do this all day. XD

Large governments are a constant of history, shifting from place to place, according to sociogeopolitical dynamics (damn, I think I came up with a new word!)
Constants tend to be inevitable, and a symptom of our species

Racism are a constant of history, if you not only count America, and begin to systematically count racism around the world, including institutionalized racism, you will discover that it is as common as it has always been - only shifted around a bit.

Female role in society has always been contested. The Amazone legends are an example of how ancient this push-and-shove situation is. Religion plays a huge role. In pagan viking society women were perfectly welcome to fight side by side with male warriors, the term "shield-maiden" being common. Women also held all property keys in a bag on their belt, and were therefore the practical masters of the house, controlling when the door is open or shut. However, women are the only gender who can give birth, and in order for populations not to stagnate, society depends on women - at least for the duration of toddler-raising - tends to birthing and raising the toddler. This is pretty much what a modern democratic society tries to do. The struggle, however, is still there - especially if you count the rest of the world, where women are still sold as cattle, in certain societies. As long as the genders will never become identical, the struggle will remain part of human nature - however with the destruction of arbitrary religions and traditions, the impact of it can be minimized.

Truthers always existed, because people are imaginative - and information is withheld from them, almost always in the posession of others, and distributed in portions. People on earth have an inherent knowledge that any statement might be true or false. We ultimately have to go by probability, and the human brain struggles particularily with predicting probability (instead relying on patterns of recognition and association).

And war? Well... War never changes.  8)


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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #114 on: January 23, 2015, 08:37:49 PM »
>anti-vaxxers

>2015

There's too many things that shouldn't be around in 2015 that are. Anti-vaxxers and religion are two of them.

Can you name any more?  :autism:

Large government. Racism. Race baiting. Feminism. Male rights advocacy. Truthers of all kinds. Certain welfare programs. War. Nuclear weapons. I could do this all day. XD

The list will go on for ages.  :M

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"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #115 on: January 23, 2015, 08:39:59 PM »
Large government. Racism. Race baiting. Feminism. Male rights advocacy. Truthers of all kinds. Certain welfare programs. War. Nuclear weapons. I could do this all day. XD

Large governments are a constant of history, shifting from place to place, according to sociogeopolitical dynamics (damn, I think I came up with a new word!)
Constants tend to be inevitable, and a symptom of our species

Racism are a constant of history, if you not only count America, and begin to systematically count racism around the world, including institutionalized racism, you will discover that it is as common as it has always been - only shifted around a bit.

Female role in society has always been contested. The Amazone legends are an example of how ancient this push-and-shove situation is. Religion plays a huge role. In pagan viking society women were perfectly welcome to fight side by side with male warriors, the term "shield-maiden" being common. Women also held all property keys in a bag on their belt, and were therefore the practical masters of the house, controlling when the door is open or shut. However, women are the only gender who can give birth, and in order for populations not to stagnate, society depends on women - at least for the duration of toddler-raising - tends to birthing and raising the toddler. This is pretty much what a modern democratic society tries to do. The struggle, however, is still there - especially if you count the rest of the world, where women are still sold as cattle, in certain societies. As long as the genders will never become identical, the struggle will remain part of human nature - however with the destruction of arbitrary religions and traditions, the impact of it can be minimized.

Truthers always existed, because people are imaginative - and information is withheld from them, almost always in the posession of others, and distributed in portions. People on earth have an inherent knowledge that any statement might be true or false. We ultimately have to go by probability, and the human brain struggles particularily with predicting probability (instead relying on patterns of recognition and association).

And war? Well... War never changes.  8)

Yes, these paradoxes of the human condition will likely never be resolved. Doesn't stop me from curling my lip at them though.  :zoinks:
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #116 on: January 23, 2015, 08:52:14 PM »
And war? Well... War never changes.  8)


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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #117 on: January 23, 2015, 09:01:10 PM »
Rage, right fucking on man, what else do we have speech and opinions for? Even my sci-fi endevours are all about messing around with all these concepts, criticizing, re-wishing, pointing out for no other reason than to point out, that's what we're here to do :M

SomeBloke, I will forgive that you used an image from Beth's trainwreck of a "fan-fic" >:'M Sorry, I'm one of those ass-annoying "fallout purists"  :nerdy: I adored New Vegas, cus that was the same people as 1 and 2  :nerdy: :nerdy: :nerdy:

To be fair, the hardcorest purists obviously only like "Fallout" the first game, and nothing else. In the world. Not even their mothers.

(FO1 and 2 are highly recommendable games if you haven't tried by the way. The old-school graphics might take a lil getting used to, but they are enormously content-rich, and with tons of mean, dark humor)
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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #118 on: January 24, 2015, 01:12:28 AM »
"Old-school graphics". Pfffft. :M

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Re: Israel-Palestine conflict, for dummies
« Reply #119 on: February 02, 2015, 12:31:38 PM »
Some_Bloke, could you read this if you get time and let me know what you think. 

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/04/some-reflections-on-measles-and-the-mmr-.html

Did you bring this article to my attention with the intent that it's sheer stupidity would piss me off?

You mean you disagree with him?  His points definitely need addressing, especially regarding the the need for all 3 at once. 
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Fatality waits in the wings
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Beware of the jester that sings"


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