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Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« on: October 01, 2014, 04:28:28 PM »
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 04:31:51 PM »
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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 04:33:21 PM »
You genius Jack!
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 04:35:10 PM »
You genius Jack!
This is true. Though credit for this gem must to go PMSElle.

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 04:44:39 PM »
You genius Jack!
This is true. Though credit for this gem must to go PMSElle.

There's no end to her talents! 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 04:50:57 PM »
The old fuddy fuddy didn't answer her question.

How do you know the money won't go to rockets for Hamas to fire at Israel??

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 05:01:05 PM »
The old fuddy fuddy didn't answer her question.

How do you know the money won't go to rockets for Hamas to fire at Israel??

Like $7 million a day goes to Israel to "mow the lawn" in Gaza every few years?  Where exactly are Hamas going to buy these "rockets" from, when every border is closed?  It'd have been good if the money did go on real rockets to fire back at the Knesset in 2008/9.  Israel went on a rampage, which some soldiers described as "like killing ants with a magnifying glass" or "like a Playstation computer game"

From reading Miko Peled's book, I know the insane difficulty there is in getting in aid to Gaza.  Israel won't allow it.   Despite the alleged "withdrawal" from Gaza in 2005, Israel still occupies them, it controls the waters, the air space and the resources.  I don't blame them for firing rockets, but they shouldn't, because that's what Israel craves. 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 05:19:15 PM »
Where exactly are Hamas going to buy these "rockets" from, when every border is closed?

They've managed so far. Obviously they have good smuggling routes.

 
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I don't blame them for firing rockets, but they shouldn't, because that's what Israel craves.

So your only objection to firing rockets at Israeli civilians is that that's what Israel wants??

There must be something in the water where you live.

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 05:29:33 PM »
Where exactly are Hamas going to buy these "rockets" from, when every border is closed?

They've managed so far. Obviously they have good smuggling routes.

 
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I don't blame them for firing rockets, but they shouldn't, because that's what Israel craves.

So your only objection to firing rockets at Israeli civilians is that that's what Israel wants??

There must be something in the water where you live.

Nope, they are just homemade, glorified fireworks. 

They have no idea where the fireworks land, they just fire them in retaliation.  Where as Israel, with their weaponry, could blow up a car from 50 miles away without putting a scratch on the car next to it.  Yet they still manage to blow up children on a beach or in UN shelter while seeking refuge. 

In 2008/9, 1400 Palestinians were killed, 4/5's being civilians.  13 Israelis were killed, 10 of those were soldiers, and 5 of those were killed via "friendly fire".  This year the Israelis killed around 2100 Palestinians.  The estimated civilian percentage ranges between 50%-70%. 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 06:56:32 PM »

Nope, they are just homemade, glorified fireworks.
 

Bullshit!! they are deadly rockets that have killed hundreds (and would kill even more of they had any accuracy to them).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

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They have no idea where the fireworks land, they just fire them in retaliation.

Bullshit! they never aim them at military targets, just cities.

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Where as Israel, with their weaponry, could blow up a car from 50 miles away without putting a scratch on the car next to it.  Yet they still manage to blow up children on a beach or in UN shelter while seeking refuge.


Quite an over exageration don't ya think?? 

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In 2008/9, 1400 Palestinians were killed, 4/5's being civilians.  13 Israelis were killed, 10 of those were soldiers, and 5 of those were killed via "friendly fire".  This year the Israelis killed around 2100 Palestinians.  The estimated civilian percentage ranges between 50%-70%.

citation needed. Given that you've already posted BS, I bet your source for this is another site full of propaganda.

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 07:01:57 PM »

Nope, they are just homemade, glorified fireworks.
 

Bullshit!! they are deadly rockets that have killed hundreds (and would kill even more of they had any accuracy to them).

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these days most are shot down

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 07:15:19 PM »

Nope, they are just homemade, glorified fireworks.
 

Bullshit!! they are deadly rockets that have killed hundreds (and would kill even more of they had any accuracy to them).

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these days most are shot down

That doesn't excuse Hamas from firing them in the first place.

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 07:29:51 PM »

Nope, they are just homemade, glorified fireworks.
 

Bullshit!! they are deadly rockets that have killed hundreds (and would kill even more of they had any accuracy to them).

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these days most are shot down

That doesn't excuse Hamas from firing them in the first place.
nothing excuses that

but since most are shot down, there is perfect excuse

for Israel to not be so heavy handed against the Palestinian peoples in return

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Re: Tony Benn 1- BBC/Israel 0
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2014, 10:43:19 AM »

Nope, they are just homemade, glorified fireworks.
 

Bullshit!! they are deadly rockets that have killed hundreds (and would kill even more of they had any accuracy to them).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

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They have no idea where the fireworks land, they just fire them in retaliation.

Bullshit! they never aim them at military targets, just cities.

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Where as Israel, with their weaponry, could blow up a car from 50 miles away without putting a scratch on the car next to it.  Yet they still manage to blow up children on a beach or in UN shelter while seeking refuge.


Quite an over exageration don't ya think?? 

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In 2008/9, 1400 Palestinians were killed, 4/5's being civilians.  13 Israelis were killed, 10 of those were soldiers, and 5 of those were killed via "friendly fire".  This year the Israelis killed around 2100 Palestinians.  The estimated civilian percentage ranges between 50%-70%.

citation needed. Given that you've already posted BS, I bet your source for this is another site full of propaganda.

Where did you get hundreds from?  Did you even read your source?  Why are you so concerned about Palestinian "rockets" but don't care about Israeli weapons?  Israel have threatened to nuke anyone who tries to bring them to justice. 



http://normanfinkelstein.com/2014/iron-dome-fact-and-fiction/

"Bullshit! they never aim them at military targets, just cities."  You're talking about Israel now?

No, not really an exaggeration, they have the most advanced weaponry money can buy.

I dunno, are Human Rights organizations biased?   http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/015/2009/en/8f299083-9a74-4853-860f-0563725e633a/mde150152009en.pdf
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


Leeeeeaaaave Benji alooooooone!  :bigcry: