U.S. Air Strikes in Syria

[Jack]

You are such a fuckin idiot. I've said it before, I'll say it again - I kinda want to research you.

That doesn't even make sense.

It's a compliment.

I think Zegh confused hashish with black tar heroin and is having a bad trip. 

Outside of real friendships, people online are largely entertainment. You maintain his interest.

[odeon]

on a lighter note, every-time I see your avi odeon I find it to be the most relevant point regardless of a thread   

+

I do always make the most relevant points, though.

[odeon]

... and there you have it folks. Zegh has gone so far down the rabbit hole of PoMo nonsense that he can't tell the difference between contrived state propaganda and news reported by independent sources.

Epic 

(not to mention the invoking of Godwin's Law)

Actually Zegh's point about Germany's real motives is valid.

That wasn't the main point he was trying to make though.

His main point was Nazi Propaganda = Modern Journalism, samey samey. Complete bullshit.

Indeed, but I think points should be awarded when appropriate.

Still waiting for the other guy to make an actual point. Not holding my breath.

[odeon]

You are such a fuckin idiot. I've said it before, I'll say it again - I kinda want to research you.

That doesn't even make sense.

Let me explain it to you then, sigh... You are so malfunctional in your incessant blunders, that it would have been interesting to find out what exactly it is that is blocking up your mind.

If at any other point you fail to understand what I'm saying, feel free to ask me to explain. I'm not a bad guy.

I LOL'd.  +

Although you should probably address his points.

[odeon]

on a lighter note, every-time I see your avi odeon I find it to be the most relevant point regardless of a thread   

Odeon wants to be worshiped for his body, not his mind. 

I'm OK with both, actually.

[ZEGH8578]

You are such a fuckin idiot. I've said it before, I'll say it again - I kinda want to research you.

That doesn't even make sense.

Let me explain it to you then, sigh... You are so malfunctional in your incessant blunders, that it would have been interesting to find out what exactly it is that is blocking up your mind.

If at any other point you fail to understand what I'm saying, feel free to ask me to explain. I'm not a bad guy.

I LOL'd.  +

Although you should probably address his points.

Should I?

 

I will. Later on. Just sit really tight and wait, Pappy :]

[Gopher Gary]

on a lighter note, every-time I see your avi odeon I find it to be the most relevant point regardless of a thread   

Odeon wants to be worshiped for his body, not his mind. 

I'm OK with both, actually.

I didn't consider she might be doing both. 

[benjimanbreeg]

Would you like me to tuck you up in bed and read them for you?   

Read them in the voice of Yosemite Sam. 

Buggs was an Anti-Semite 

[benjimanbreeg]

A lot of what we "know" now could be propaganda.  If Germany had won the war, the historians would be writing a different story.  "History is written by the victors".

You're still not making an actual point.

You don't get the points, that's the difference 

[benjimanbreeg]

So I take it you're OK with a leader using chemical weapons against his people?

 

Talking about believing fairy tales.  Yes, the US/Israel/UK were foaming at the mouth about going into Syria, begging for an excuse, then while the chemical weapons inspectors were in town, Assad thought it'd be a great idea to attack people with some chemical weapons!

You realize it wasn't proven that it definitely was Assad?  Most likely cause it wasn't.  Funny news channels manipulate people.  They will believe anything they see on TV, and won't believe anything, until it's been confirmed for them on TV.

Let's say Assad did use them.  Then still, why not be consistent and still fund him?  Israel poured white phosphorus over schools and hospitals in Gaza, and the US still gives them $7 million a day.

The UN report did not definitely pinpoint the origins of the chemical weapons, no, but the investigators were able to confirm the trajectories of some of the missiles--they came from government-controlled areas. There have also been accusations of the rebels using sarin gas, namely by one of the UN investigators.

These are not fairy tales. Horror stories, maybe, but not fairy tales.

But you do with your tinfoil hat what you will. It's obvious even to the most casual observer that you won't let facts get in the way.

If there are facts you were unaware of, they come under the tinfoil hat/conspiracy section.  So really, you cannot lose. 

Again, are you stupid enough to believe that Assad would bomb people while the inspectors were in town and Israeli lobbyists, Cameron and Obomber were foaming at the mouth about fighting Assad?  You will believe anything you see on TV, without question.  You realize if it wasn't the government, whoever did it would find a way of firing from a government controlled area?  Weren't some of your kind of "facts" in the past, ones like Saddam having nukes and was ready to blow us up in 45 minutes?

I think it's hilarious that you resort to name-calling and unfounded assumptions every time you reply to my posts. You really aren't very good at this, are you?

Cause you're above all of that?  You, who counter people with condescending memes and hint that people are mentally ill if they share stuff that you were unaware of.  I don't think it was over the top to ask if you were stupid enough to believe such nonsense.

You might want to reread the thread and remind yourself of the discussion so far. In particular, read your own posts.

You really suck at this, don't you?

Pot calling the kettle black sonny jim. 

You mean you disagree with me?  So fine, if I suck, it shouldn't be a problem for you to counter my points or explain the information, but you're not capable, so you'd rather talk about me? 

Sure. Rather than repeating the information here, I'd suggest you to start with the obvious, namely Wikipedia. Plenty of information there, including links to sources. You might find the section on the group's finances to be of particular interest. Don't forget to follow up on the sources, as they will give a lot more detail.

As for Assad and Syria, again, Wikipedia provides an excellent starting point, as do the official reports that were conducted. You should start there.

The Gaza argument you're making is largely irrelevant, of course, but then, I assume you knew it when posting.

And again, I'd urge you to reread this thread.

So basically your stance is, "go to wikpedia for facts"   

[benjimanbreeg]

There's always other reasons for wars.

 “Germany’s unforgivable crime before the second world war was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.”    Winston Churchill

There are many reasons for wars. I believe Winston Churchill repeatedly urged Britain not to ignore the threat from Germany long before they started their expansion. Mr Chamberlain managed to ignore most of them and Churchill remained ousted throughout most of the 30s, IIRC.

Yeah, that ancient alien slug was certainly beating the drum about Germany.  If we went to war because Germany invaded Poland, then why didn't we declare war on the Soviets, rather than fighting with them?  Maybe it was acceptable to attack Poland from the East, but not the West?  Hitler says he admired our Empire and say us as natural allies, where as Roosevelt said his greatest ambition was "to see the destruction of the British Empire", yet we made an alliance with the US and the Soviets?   

I fail to see your point here, but the reasons to WW2 and the alliances made are quite well researched by now. You might want to read up on them, cos I can't be arsed to link to the Wikipedia articles (hint: plenty of sources listed there).

"I fail to see your point here"  I think that's the main problem, and it's yours.  Like I don't know that?  Lol.  We've been told repeatedly why we went to war, but there's plenty of information you were oblivious to that says otherwise.

You're assuming that I'm oblivious to some information you hint at when actually I simply reject the argumentation made. There is a difference.

Take off the tinfoil hat and show me the facts.

You made it very apparent.  Pleading for Adam to come back to rescue you, cause Adam knows more than us all about WWII, or, you agree with Adam more like. 

[benjimanbreeg]

So I take it you're OK with a leader using chemical weapons against his people?

 

Talking about believing fairy tales.  Yes, the US/Israel/UK were foaming at the mouth about going into Syria, begging for an excuse, then while the chemical weapons inspectors were in town, Assad thought it'd be a great idea to attack people with some chemical weapons!

You realize it wasn't proven that it definitely was Assad?  Most likely cause it wasn't.  Funny news channels manipulate people.  They will believe anything they see on TV, and won't believe anything, until it's been confirmed for them on TV.

Let's say Assad did use them.  Then still, why not be consistent and still fund him?  Israel poured white phosphorus over schools and hospitals in Gaza, and the US still gives them $7 million a day.

The UN report did not definitely pinpoint the origins of the chemical weapons, no, but the investigators were able to confirm the trajectories of some of the missiles--they came from government-controlled areas. There have also been accusations of the rebels using sarin gas, namely by one of the UN investigators.

These are not fairy tales. Horror stories, maybe, but not fairy tales.

But you do with your tinfoil hat what you will. It's obvious even to the most casual observer that you won't let facts get in the way.

If there are facts you were unaware of, they come under the tinfoil hat/conspiracy section.  So really, you cannot lose. 

Again, are you stupid enough to believe that Assad would bomb people while the inspectors were in town and Israeli lobbyists, Cameron and Obomber were foaming at the mouth about fighting Assad?  You will believe anything you see on TV, without question.  You realize if it wasn't the government, whoever did it would find a way of firing from a government controlled area?  Weren't some of your kind of "facts" in the past, ones like Saddam having nukes and was ready to blow us up in 45 minutes?

I think it's hilarious that you resort to name-calling and unfounded assumptions every time you reply to my posts. You really aren't very good at this, are you?

Cause you're above all of that?  You, who counter people with condescending memes and hint that people are mentally ill if they share stuff that you were unaware of.  I don't think it was over the top to ask if you were stupid enough to believe such nonsense.

You might want to reread the thread and remind yourself of the discussion so far. In particular, read your own posts.

You really suck at this, don't you?

Pot calling the kettle black sonny jim. 

You mean you disagree with me?  So fine, if I suck, it shouldn't be a problem for you to counter my points or explain the information, but you're not capable, so you'd rather talk about me? 

Sure. Rather than repeating the information here, I'd suggest you to start with the obvious, namely Wikipedia. Plenty of information there, including links to sources. You might find the section on the group's finances to be of particular interest. Don't forget to follow up on the sources, as they will give a lot more detail.

As for Assad and Syria, again, Wikipedia provides an excellent starting point, as do the official reports that were conducted. You should start there.

The Gaza argument you're making is largely irrelevant, of course, but then, I assume you knew it when posting.

And again, I'd urge you to reread this thread.

"The Gaza argument you're making is largely irrelevant, of course, but then, I assume you knew it when posting."

   How is it "largely irrelevant"?  It shows the US will support it when their "allies" do it, but cry their eyes out when someone they want to bomb does it.  You simply don't understand, or don't want to.

[odeon]

A lot of what we "know" now could be propaganda.  If Germany had won the war, the historians would be writing a different story.  "History is written by the victors".

You're still not making an actual point.

You don't get the points, that's the difference 

Yeah, you're just too subtle.

[odeon]

Sure. Rather than repeating the information here, I'd suggest you to start with the obvious, namely Wikipedia. Plenty of information there, including links to sources. You might find the section on the group's finances to be of particular interest. Don't forget to follow up on the sources, as they will give a lot more detail.

As for Assad and Syria, again, Wikipedia provides an excellent starting point, as do the official reports that were conducted. You should start there.

The Gaza argument you're making is largely irrelevant, of course, but then, I assume you knew it when posting.

And again, I'd urge you to reread this thread.

So basically your stance is, "go to wikpedia for facts"   

Your research skills seem to only be matched by your reading skills.

[odeon]

You're assuming that I'm oblivious to some information you hint at when actually I simply reject the argumentation made. There is a difference.

Take off the tinfoil hat and show me the facts.

You made it very apparent.  Pleading for Adam to come back to rescue you, cause Adam knows more than us all about WWII, or, you agree with Adam more like.

Actually Adam's WW2 knowledge is vastly superior to ours, yes. It's one of his special interests.

However, I do know a bit about the subject. I assume you don't, since you've carefully avoided any facts in your replies.