On some real shit, guys.

[Lestat]

Well we could wall off the west I suppose, but there are a lot of pakis already here, so we would have to have a purge.

But I like the idea of using the cunts to off the ancient aliens. Use their local knowledge and manpower to help assassinate the ancient aliens, then slit their throats in their sleep and get rid of them.

We would be doing a favour to the iraqis by wiping out ISIS however. They are so unpleasant and fundamentalist that apparently even al-qaeda judges them anathema.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Well technically medieval Islam was a lot more progressive than what these fundie groups are pushing in modern times.

That's a fairly well known fact about how Islam has retarded Arabic society and culture.

It was mostly the fault of Al-Ghazali

[Lestat]

Islam had its day, IMO.  That said, so has religion itself in general, we would be infinitely better off without religion.

[Calandale]

I don't think the answer is to bomb the shite out of Iraq.

I thought it was to bomb the sunni out. 

[Lestat]

For once, calandale, you aren't just talking shiite haha.

[Pyraxis]

 

[ZEGH8578]

I voted for the guy first time. I honestly thought he was different, and seemed like a real progressive thinker. I will never trust another American president after this.

I'm not gonna go to the condescending level of asking "why did you trust one in the first place?" because it isn't too uncommon to trust a politician who seems to say what you agree with.
There are always schemes.
I had high hopes for Obama cus he was not-Bush. At that point in time, seriously, you Americans think you had enough of Bush? Ask the world how much of enough they had of Bush, even countries at total peace, even Norway, and if you think you guys are resented now? We've been joking about Americans oblivious to how hated they are _since the 80s_, and you've been mostly hated since idunno, at least the 60s. Hated intensely by the 3rd and "2nd" world, but little by little resented by the 1st. A lot of the resentment has been about the whole "world police"/"war-war-war" attitude, but later on, especially in NATO countries, there's a resentment of being pushed and bullied into joining wars. America can be quite tactless like that, and the world public takes notice.
France decides not to join an _illegal_ war on Iraq, and America denounces France - and the world _notices_

So, even when our politicians are as callous as yours, ours simply cannot have plans as massive as your politicians. Our prime minister can at best suck your presidents dick. So, who your president IS is important to the rest of us as well. And Americans laugh and gloat "yup! your our bitches! we saved your asses in ww2! you do what your told! your-up! LOL!", see that's the kind of attitude that keeps us resenting you all, and that will leave the lot of us quietly on the sideline, once the US begins to implode in civil war, whispering "good riddance. Who wants to be superpower now? NO Russia! NO! Oh ffs... "

Tldr; All presidents are liars, but American presidents are liars on a global scale, their lies affecting everyone on the planet.

[RageBeoulve]

I voted for the guy first time. I honestly thought he was different, and seemed like a real progressive thinker. I will never trust another American president after this.

I'm not gonna go to the condescending level of asking "why did you trust one in the first place?" because it isn't too uncommon to trust a politician who seems to say what you agree with.
There are always schemes.
I had high hopes for Obama cus he was not-Bush. At that point in time, seriously, you Americans think you had enough of Bush? Ask the world how much of enough they had of Bush, even countries at total peace, even Norway, and if you think you guys are resented now? We've been joking about Americans oblivious to how hated they are _since the 80s_, and you've been mostly hated since idunno, at least the 60s. Hated intensely by the 3rd and "2nd" world, but little by little resented by the 1st. A lot of the resentment has been about the whole "world police"/"war-war-war" attitude, but later on, especially in NATO countries, there's a resentment of being pushed and bullied into joining wars. America can be quite tactless like that, and the world public takes notice.
France decides not to join an _illegal_ war on Iraq, and America denounces France - and the world _notices_

So, even when our politicians are as callous as yours, ours simply cannot have plans as massive as your politicians. Our prime minister can at best suck your presidents dick. So, who your president IS is important to the rest of us as well. And Americans laugh and gloat "yup! your our bitches! we saved your asses in ww2! you do what your told! your-up! LOL!", see that's the kind of attitude that keeps us resenting you all, and that will leave the lot of us quietly on the sideline, once the US begins to implode in civil war, whispering "good riddance. Who wants to be superpower now? NO Russia! NO! Oh ffs... "

Tldr; All presidents are liars, but American presidents are liars on a global scale, their lies affecting everyone on the planet.

I had high hopes for Obama cus he was not-Bush.

I actually liked what he had to say. He rattled off a lot of foreward thinking programs he was going to implement, and I was right there with him. I had no idea the ACA would be changed so dramatically during his term, and that he would completely militarize the police. He broke every promise he made, and turned out to be bushx2. A lot of people disagree when I say Obama has become worse than bush, and I agree that Bush was shit. I hated that bitch, but he came by it honest at least.

Guy went through the motions of getting congress's approval for his invasion. Obama has engaged in more than one, and bypassed congress both times. Bush layed down the patriot act. It was a fucking evil document, but Obama has implemented things that make the patriot act look like a kid's game.

You know what though, i'm not even going to sit here and blame Obama or Bush. It does no good to self righteously point my finger and call them evil men or anything, since the American presidency is a lie in the first place. Those guys are just highly paid actors, dude.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

For once, calandale, you aren't just talking shiite haha.

Yeah, mark this date on your calendar. 

[Lestat]

Kid's game? lol only if its one of those little shithead brats that likes to pull the wings off flies and pour salt on slugs and snails.

And bush did NOT come by it honest, he isn't even properly elected.

[ZEGH8578]

It does no good to self righteously point my finger and call them evil men or anything, since the American presidency is a lie in the first place. Those guys are just highly paid actors, dude.

Kindov my point.
Humans need some kind of authority, otherwise we get social-darwinism, and that simply is not fair, and I hate when people who think themselves secure come around and advocate social-darwinism, out of a misconception that they would be safe. I would fucking kill them myself, just to laugh in their face about it.

Humans need some kind of authority, but read my words: SOME KIND OF, authority. This can be your fucking grandpa! I mean, let's keep our minds open here!

The problem is with todays big system put into a pattern of normalcy. We are pawns in a huge industry, ruled by private tycoons, and we mere plebs contemplate the FINALITY of death, we see poor fucks getting decapitated on tv, we lay awake at night, and wonder what it would be like to watch our family get mowed down, wonder what it's like to have our own lights shut off by fucking Russians or Islamists or your own fellow Americans for that matter.
Imagine being put on your knees, and executed, by another American.
He hates you MORE than he hates the islamists, because to him - you're a traitor. And he has NO mercy for traitors.

To the politician, lives are nothing. Lives are a currency. To start a conflict here, spend 5000-12000 lives. To end a conflict there, spend 1250-1500 lives.
The Gaza bombing was a routine event, possibly also serving as a Middle-East diversion (to allow IS progression to "come as a shock". People, it's only a shock if none of you pay attention... ), this cost 2200 lives, counting Israeli ones as well.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

And bush did NOT come by it honest, he isn't even properly elected.

Apparently news about the US in Europe isn't that accurate, go figure.               

[ZEGH8578]

And bush did NOT come by it honest, he isn't even properly elected.

Apparently news about the US in Europe isn't that accurate, go figure.               

What did I tell you about talking politics?
Just, listen to someone who knows better than you, FOR ONCE. You know, it's for YOUR OWN GOOD I'm saying this, believe it or not.

The world is not your enemy.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

WTF makes you think I'm intimidated by your hubris??

You're just a shit-talking piece of unemployed Eurotrash who thinks that your propaganda is somehow true.

                        

[ZEGH8578]

Intimidated?

I'm trying to help you dude, despite of it all!
Imagine what a large individual that makes me.

It's kindov like slugs out on the porch after rain, I pick them up and toss them on the lawn, as a good deed, despite my fingers getting all gooey.