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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2014, 11:53:45 AM »
You can take take acid untill you die (it is lethal in large ammounts) and still never think you're a "glass of orange juice"

it is a typical "scary-story", and it's easy to pin this on drugs cus a lot of people have no way of confirming/disconfirming, plus "everyone knows" acid etc give life-like hallucinations (it doesn't, it's kindova myth. Acid makes you over-acute to sensory input. You never turn into a glass of orange juice. Unless you're retarded enough to believe you are orange juice in sober condition)

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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2014, 01:40:41 PM »
Some people, sich as eris, deteriorated quickly after coming into contact with I2
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2014, 05:16:44 PM »
Zegh, those sort of psychedelics can indeed produce some life-like experiences, and entity-contacts. I can testify to that personally.

And you would have to take a MASSIVE (with respect to an active dose range) quantity of acid, just look at the way people in the trade have done thumbprints. God knows how much acid that would get into your system via a thumb print, which is what it sounds like, dipping a thumb into crystalline LSD, but its bound to be an absolutely thumping great dose.

I've had a trip on morning glory seeds before where I relieved part of a battle during a war, through the eyes of one of the combatants, but never believed I WAS that soldier, it was more like a first-person perspective view, from behind the eyes of a second person.

For the really immersive, detailed experiences that can happen like that though, the serotonergic psychedelics, aren't really the ideal candidates, but dissociatives like ketamine, PCP (which I haven't tried, only quite a lot of substituted PCP analogs, PCE analogs and such), those can indeed produce a 100% full on in-your-face believable scenario. But it does not persist past the duration the substance is active.

One can certainly loose it on uppers, speed psychosis generally happens when the user keeps pushing and pushing the boundaries of how long they can remain awake for to do more of their chosen substance, its got a lot to do with sleep deprivation. I once accidentally did so much whizz after coming home from a party where alcohol, pills, ether and other things besides were going around (I'd brought the ether, as well as some yopo/cohoba snuff, other people were contributing all sorts to the gathering)

On my way home, I got a lift to see the dealer from my friend's mom, to pick up some speed, did several grams over a few hours, but unlike usual, in this country, a lot of amphetamine sulfate that goes around is cut so badly, or at least it used to be, haven't bought any in quite a long time, that it was maybe 5-10% amphetamine, the rest glucose, caffeine and god knows what else. This stuff was absolutely mental strong 'base', which is a slang term for a gooey, kinda oily-pasty strong smelling speed that can be a blow your head off degree of strong.

This did, and as I remember, I started just going off into microsleeps for a second or two according to others. Didn't sleep properly and fully for a couple of WEEKS after that party, thanks to the monstrous comedown from some of the things imbibed, and that phet keeping me wide-eyed and sleepless.

Started to see things at first out of the corner of the eye, and as time passed, eventually it got to the point where I was taking a shower, and seeing vines sprouting and writhing, out of a big black vortex upon the wall. Was all kinds of flavours of fucked-upness.

These days if I'm doing amphetamines, coke, research chemical stimulants, stimulant plants and herbs of any kind, unless pretty mild, or taking a low dose, I make sure I time my use to just before the day my repeat prescriptions come in, so I have a good amount of wiggle room to knock myself out afterwards with as many sleeping pills/opiates/muscle relaxers as needs be to turn what would be a comedown into a nice relaxing day in bed instead :D

No, you won't, definitely won't, ever, ever, turn into a glass of orange juice in a mental home for the rest of your life, thats propaganda and nothing but.
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2014, 06:15:09 PM »
You can take take acid untill you die (it is lethal in large ammounts) and still never think you're a "glass of orange juice"

it is a typical "scary-story", and it's easy to pin this on drugs cus a lot of people have no way of confirming/disconfirming, plus "everyone knows" acid etc give life-like hallucinations (it doesn't, it's kindova myth. Acid makes you over-acute to sensory input. You never turn into a glass of orange juice. Unless you're retarded enough to believe you are orange juice in sober condition)

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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2014, 06:33:04 PM »
So how come I didn't end up more autistic than I already am, any time I've dropped a tab when spesh BEFORE taking them?

I wouldn't say that 'over acute' is accurate really, its not what they are for at least, although that might be the case for some people. The dissociative varieties of 'hallucinogen' though, do the opposite, cutting off external sensory input. IMO they seem in a way like it might be a similar end effect to a sensory deprivation tank, dissociative anaesthetics like PCP, ket, MXE and co. sorta tune people in to their own radio rather than receiving a broadcast station.

I'd be interested to hear from other auties/aspies who have done both the common serotonergic psychedelics (the tryptamines, ergolines, phenethylamine/substituted amphetamine families and others) as well as dissociatives like ket, methoxetamine, PCP, memantine or the relatively new on the market lefetamine analogs like methoxphenidine and diphenidine to see how much of a preference difference there was, given the tendencies for us spazzes to experience sensory flooding.

I myself find dissociatives VERY alluring, seductive and more-ish. Makes me wonder if it isn't because they shut down sensory input. I'm looking forward to the head shop opening tomorrow so I can go pick up a few grams of diphenidine and some methoxphenidine tomorrow, soon as walking out of my front door to the metro station and getting my tram into town will get me there right when they open, I'm outa here to go get my goodies.  Can't wait, I love a good K-hole (or in the case of other things a whatever-it-might-be-hole:D)

Got some last weekend and spent from friday to  tuesday in one long K-hole, although not with ket, but diphenidine and methoxphenidine/MXP, I holed, and when coming out of the storm of mindfuck, already had another shot prepared ready to send me back under. Was fun as hell, although come tuesday when I went to pick up my meds in the morning I'm glad I had to talk to nobody short of a 'morning' and 'bye' to the docs receptionist, my speech would have been too fucked to be actually seeing one of the doctors and I bet they would have picked up on my 'rabbit in headlights' expression in my eyes, they were wide as dinnerplates-open and it was obvious I imagine that I was still tripping somewhat:P
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2014, 08:36:09 PM »
The problem with the Jenny McCarthys of this world is that some people think looks have something to do with brains. Jenny McCarthy would be just fine if she didn't open her mouth.

Nope. The problem is people who tell dumb bitches they're smart, in hopes of seeing more titty.  :autism:
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2014, 08:37:12 PM »
You can take take acid untill you die (it is lethal in large ammounts) and still never think you're a "glass of orange juice"

it is a typical "scary-story", and it's easy to pin this on drugs cus a lot of people have no way of confirming/disconfirming, plus "everyone knows" acid etc give life-like hallucinations (it doesn't, it's kindova myth. Acid makes you over-acute to sensory input. You never turn into a glass of orange juice. Unless you're retarded enough to believe you are orange juice in sober condition)

     Acid causes autism.  Kewl.  :tard:

It causes orange juice. Keep up.  :zoinks:
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #52 on: August 01, 2014, 08:40:46 PM »
CBC, Kiiiiindooov

Lestat, I have had absolutely crystal clear hallucinations, that I almost believed - but they were not caused by lsd or any kind of psychedelic, but huffing solvents. But a teacher wouldn't know shit about that :]

(I say almost believed, because the effect was very easy to control (sniff to trip, stop sniffing to not trip anymore))
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2014, 09:01:01 PM »
I'M A ORANGE JUICE!!! I'M A ORANGE JUICE!!!  :GA:
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2014, 09:39:44 PM »
Solvent abuse is a REALLY bad, bad, bad idea zegh, although you likely know that now.

Ether is the only one that is reasonably safe, others, I'd stay well away from, outside the context of using them AS solvents of course.

That said, I have accidentally caught a great big waft of dichloromethane/methylene chloride before, that made my vision go dark, and produced funny-looking ever-expanding concentric square and circular patterns, which was interesting to experience, although most certainly NOT something I'd do deliberately (never mind for the reason that dichlor ends up being metabolized to phosgene, a chemical weapon, and exceedingly poisonous gas)


Thankfully, no dain bramagement happended from that :P
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2014, 09:45:59 PM »
I'M A ORANGE JUICE!!! I'M A ORANGE JUICE!!!  :GA:
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2014, 10:05:56 PM »
You can take take acid untill you die (it is lethal in large ammounts) and still never think you're a "glass of orange juice"

it is a typical "scary-story", and it's easy to pin this on drugs cus a lot of people have no way of confirming/disconfirming, plus "everyone knows" acid etc give life-like hallucinations (it doesn't, it's kindova myth. Acid makes you over-acute to sensory input. You never turn into a glass of orange juice. Unless you're retarded enough to believe you are orange juice in sober condition)

     Acid causes autism.  Kewl.  :tard:

So drinking lye must cure autism! :thumbup: :tard:
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Re: I2 can be beneficial to mental health
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2014, 10:18:51 PM »
Solvent abuse is a REALLY bad, bad, bad idea zegh, although you likely know that now.

Ether is the only one that is reasonably safe, others, I'd stay well away from, outside the context of using them AS solvents of course.

Ether was what we used, and even then I would not recommend it flippantly. My final straw was after a session of intense badtrippery, I found myself nosebleeding into my hand. With that, I considered that particular chapter of experimentation as concluded :D

Intense tho, and interesting to do mental experiments with.

I am going to assume that anyone who has played around with it, will get an eery feeling if I mention "the helicopter sounds" :D