Lucas

[thepeaguy]

Oh no a reject out of a fat gay retard boy band can breakdance as well as talk shite on the internet and get punched off of fellow spangles (though apparently not feed himself), im obviously in deep trouble. I hear he has a mate called peegai that is the downcut of Napoleon Bonaparte, who will back him up. Im really up shit creek without a paddle now.

I hear that you have a mate called Peegai as well. Coincidence, eh?

I thought autistic mates were overrated? Do i not match up then do i not do i not?

They're not overrated unless I have things in common with them, and not just their autism. Making friends with people purely because they're autistic is silly. What if you find them irritating, or boring?

Thanks for quoting me. I feel kinda... honoured somewhat.

Aint it way past your bedtime, kid?

I don't usually go on the internet this late, but seeing as how the modem is still connected (as well as that fact that I went to sleep around 8pm last night)  I thought I'd have some fun here for an hour or so.

Why are you on here late? Are you waiting to buttfuck an unsuspecting Santa or summat? Thought you have a life now.

[Eamonn]

Im staying with my parents for Crimbo. They're away to bed and i got lonely.

[thepeaguy]

Im staying with my parents for Crimbo. They're away to bed and i got lonely.

And you want me to dote you, isn't that right, Sweetie?

[thepeaguy]

Oh no a reject out of a fat gay retard boy band can breakdance as well as talk shite on the internet and get punched off of fellow spangles (though apparently not feed himself), im obviously in deep trouble. I hear he has a mate called peegai that is the downcut of Napoleon Bonaparte, who will back him up. Im really up shit creek without a paddle now.

In all serious, though, Eamonn, why do you think he was a fundamentalist? All he was doing was adding neutral input to any discussion pertaining to autism, wasn't he? I don't think he was trying to personally insult anyone online or anything.

[Eamonn]

Oh no a reject out of a fat gay retard boy band can breakdance as well as talk shite on the internet and get punched off of fellow spangles (though apparently not feed himself), im obviously in deep trouble. I hear he has a mate called peegai that is the downcut of Napoleon Bonaparte, who will back him up. Im really up shit creek without a paddle now.

In all serious, though, Eamonn, why do you think he was a fundamentalist? All he was doing was adding neutral input to any discussion pertaining to autism, wasn't he? I don't think he was trying to personally insult anyone online or anything.

Go back and read the article in which we had the debate in and the way he handled it. He was insulting, anything but nuetral and extreme in his attacks on anyone wanting a cure (or choice of) for autism andf refusal to accept the difficulties of parents of autistics or that autistics are disabled in any way, shape or form, despite admitting he needed help feeding. Though reading about his difficulties i can understand his anger over a world that values people by how NT/social they are and thinks that people with disabilities are any less 'people' than NT's.

[thepeaguy]

Oh no a reject out of a fat gay retard boy band can breakdance as well as talk shite on the internet and get punched off of fellow spangles (though apparently not feed himself), im obviously in deep trouble. I hear he has a mate called peegai that is the downcut of Napoleon Bonaparte, who will back him up. Im really up shit creek without a paddle now.

In all serious, though, Eamonn, why do you think he was a fundamentalist? All he was doing was adding neutral input to any discussion pertaining to autism, wasn't he? I don't think he was trying to personally insult anyone online or anything.

Go back and read the article in which we had the debate in and the way he handled it. He was insulting, anything but nuetral and extreme in his attacks on anyone wanting a cure (or choice of) for autism andf refusal to accept the difficulties of parents of autistics or that autistics are disabled in any way, shape or form, despite admitting he needed help feeding. Though reading about his difficulties i can understand his anger over a world that values people by how NT/social they are and thinks that people with disabilities are any less 'people' than NT's.

I don't think that he was trying to imply that autistics weren't disabled because he wouldn't have claimed disability if that were the case. What he was trying to do, I believe, is dismiss the inconsistencies within the autistic community, such as the grounds for a cure, the autism spectrum, and that not every problem is caused by your autism alone -- that kind of bollocks.

Amanda Baggs (Anbuend) seemed to have worded it better than he did with the individual care bit.

[Eamonn]

I don't think that he was trying to imply that autistics weren't disabled because he wouldn't have claimed disability if that were the case.

Have you even read the fucking topic? He argued that very point and i pulled him up on it. I have always pointed out a cure is unlikely for a long time and autism is only a part of a person (and their troubles) and not the whole person.

[thepeaguy]

I don't think that he was trying to imply that autistics weren't disabled because he wouldn't have claimed disability if that were the case.

Have you even read the fucking topic? He argued that very point and i pulled him up on it. I have always pointed out a cure is unlikely for a long time and autism is only a part of a person (and their troubles) and not the whole person.

Why should there be a cure for a condition with inconclusive origins on the basis of assumed impairments? Lucas posted some concrete facts about a team of Canadian researchers trying to find the impairments associated with autism -- and yet they couldn't find any.

(Btw, been thinking of you throughout the Christmas holidays, sweet thing. ;o)

[Eamonn]

Why should there be a cure for a condition with inconclusive origins on the basis of assumed impairments? Lucas posted some concrete facts about a team of Canadian researchers trying to find the impairments associated with autism -- and yet they couldn't find any.

(Btw, been thinking of you throughout the Christmas holidays, sweet thing. ;o)

Love oo too. To deny that autism is a disability or an impairment is ignorance or fundamentalism to a high degree. Most people who are diagnosed with autism will need care for the rest of their lives. I think if you where a parent of someone with LFA you'd maybe see things differently. Of course some people with autism will lead fruitful and independant lives but so will some people with downs syndrome.

[thepeaguy]

Why should there be a cure for a condition with inconclusive origins on the basis of assumed impairments? Lucas posted some concrete facts about a team of Canadian researchers trying to find the impairments associated with autism -- and yet they couldn't find any.

(Btw, been thinking of you throughout the Christmas holidays, sweet thing. ;o)

Love oo too. To deny that autism is a disability or an impairment is ignorance or fundamentalism to a high degree. Most people who are diagnosed with autism will need care for the rest of their lives. I think if you where a parent of someone with LFA you'd maybe see things differently. Of course some people with autism will lead fruitful and independant lives but so will some people with downs syndrome.

This is the problem that Lucas had with the curbies: The likes of yourselves use the same rhetoric without looking at autism scientifically which Lucas has done. Remember that he has used various research to make his point, and not his personal experience.

And just because someone has difficulties in some areas, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are liable for a cure. What about the non-autistics with little expression for anything? Why is there no fuss on them being cured?