Malaysia jet crashes in east Ukraine conflict zone

[Semicolon]

A Malaysia Airlines jet carrying 295 people has crashed in east Ukraine on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

There are no signs of survivors at the scene of the crash near the village of Grabovo, in rebel-held territory close to the border with Russia.

Both sides in Ukraine's civil conflict accused each other of shooting down the plane with a missile. It is still not clear why the plane came down.

It is the second disaster suffered by Malaysia Airlines this year.

Flight MH370 disappeared en route from Malaysia to China in March and still has not been found.

At a news conference at Schiphol airport, Malaysia Airlines' European chief Huib Gorter said they were still trying to identify some of the passengers from flight MH17.

He said of the passengers that have been identified there were:

• 154 Dutch nationals, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians
• Six Britons, four Germans, four Belgians, three from the Philippines and one Canadian
• All 15 of the crew were Malaysian

Other airlines have announced they are now avoiding eastern Ukraine.

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It seems like a bad idea to fly on any Malaysian airplane nowadays.

[Parts]

I was thinking the same thing,  I wonder what kinda deals you'll be able to get on their tickets 

[Jack]

Why is this being called a crash?

Other airlines have announced they are now avoiding eastern Ukraine.

[ZEGH8578]

it is a shootdown

USA said there would be "hell to pay"

well, according to American standards for shooting down civilian airliners, "hell to pay" means to deny all responsability, and pay a "gift" recompensation of 150-300K to each of the bereaved families.

[bodie]

It is important to note that in recent weeks there have been a number of Ukraine Cargo and military jets shot down by Russian Separatists in that area.

Just before news of the passenger jet broke there were several posts made on social media by the separatists celebrating another one.  These were removed immediately as they realised they had shot down a civilian aircraft.   Sky news recovered some of the posts by using the 'cache' system. 

In a nutshell then, it looks like the Russians supplied the equipment (must have been 'heavy duty' to bring down a plane at 33 thousand feet) to separatists who either weren't trained properly or simply mistook the plane to be Ukraine military.

Pockets of air space are labelled and this one had a warning 'strongly advised not to enter' to European flight companies.  However Malaysia have said that the air space was approved and used by all Asian flight companies.    ??  Seems contradictory and would suggest room for improvement on how air space is labelled. 

It is a human tragedy and the nationality of all passengers is not confirmed.  It appears to be mostly Dutch, Australian and British.  It is very sad that 100 were children or infants. 

I cannot see how Malaysian Airlines can maintain business after this.  They must have law suits left right and centre.   

[Semicolon]

I was thinking the same thing,  I wonder what kinda deals you'll be able to get on their tickets 

Why not take a Malaysian vacation and find out?

[lutra]

Makes me feel sad to think of what all those family members and friends are going through.. hearing about their close-ones being ja, killed.

What a lousy thing those bastards did.

[bodie]

Oh no.  Just heard reports about the crash scene.  Personal belongings, watches, credit cards etc being 'taken' from the scene. 


Crash site not secured yet and already black box is gone and body parts are being searched for valuables.  Sick.   

[Parts]

There is some pretty hellish footage on Live Leak

['andersom']

Oh no.  Just heard reports about the crash scene.  Personal belongings, watches, credit cards etc being 'taken' from the scene. 


Crash site not secured yet and already black box is gone and body parts are being searched for valuables.  Sick.   

UGH.

[Calandale]

BBQ!

[Gopher Gary]

BBQ!

[RageBeoulve]

?

[sg1008]

Oh no.  Just heard reports about the crash scene.  Personal belongings, watches, credit cards etc being 'taken' from the scene. 


Crash site not secured yet and already black box is gone and body parts are being searched for valuables.  Sick.   

That's a shame.

[Queen Victoria]

I only hope there will be justice for this evil deed.

It's bad enough that the passengers and crew were innocent, but it always gets me when children are involved in a tragedy.