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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2014, 11:28:11 PM »
Considering how that meeting also set the stage for the cold war, yes. The irony is staggering.
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2014, 02:09:02 AM »
Who knows, how cold it will get.

Gazprom and such. :P
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2014, 09:14:42 AM »
From what I understand, Crimea is important to Russia because (mostly) of military strategy. The Russian population living there obviously helps their cause, but their main objective is the Sevastopol naval base, which is large and adequate, and can house their extensive Black Sea fleet. This gives them fluid military mobility that reaches Southern Europe, but most importantly, a quick access fo the Middle East, such as an ability to stay in touch with their friends in Syria.

Take Sevastopol away from Russia, and they lose a lot of influence in the oil-rich Middle East, influence that will be left to the West to keep to itself

To understand why one base is so important to Russia, remember how we take for granted American access to around the planet, they have bases everywhere, because everyone is their friend (or afraid of being invaded)
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2014, 11:26:03 AM »
From what I understand, Crimea is important to Russia because (mostly) of military strategy. The Russian population living there obviously helps their cause, but their main objective is the Sevastopol naval base, which is large and adequate, and can house their extensive Black Sea fleet. This gives them fluid military mobility that reaches Southern Europe, but most importantly, a quick access fo the Middle East, such as an ability to stay in touch with their friends in Syria.

Take Sevastopol away from Russia, and they lose a lot of influence in the oil-rich Middle East, influence that will be left to the West to keep to itself

To understand why one base is so important to Russia, remember how we take for granted American access to around the planet, they have bases everywhere, because everyone is their friend (or afraid of being invaded)

Indeed. I thin Putin and his pals would find it a bit upsetting if the U.S. set up some big ol' missle bases in Ukraine with E.U. backing.














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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2014, 03:17:33 AM »
You do know that including half a dozen images of Obama and Putin won't magically build the argument that is missing in your text for you, right?
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2014, 04:06:20 AM »
America need not be concerned  YET about this WWIII thing.   Going by the last one,  if it started today it would be a good three years before they join in.   :zoinks:
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2014, 04:07:25 AM »
Easier to start it than to join it later. :zoinks:
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2014, 11:29:05 AM »
You do know that including half a dozen images of Obama and Putin won't magically build the argument that is missing in your text for you, right?

You do know that i'm merely making fun of a potentially bad situation that if occurs, I will neither support or participate in, right?
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 11:56:25 PM »
You do know that including half a dozen images of Obama and Putin won't magically build the argument that is missing in your text for you, right?

You do know that i'm merely making fun of a potentially bad situation that if occurs, I will neither support or participate in, right?

You could have fooled me.
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2014, 08:30:30 PM »
Anyway, Odeon perhaps you should be truly like your avatar and go and book a bed-in protest in an Amsterdam Hotel

I got some stripy jimjams and can send them to you!

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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2014, 11:20:21 PM »
That should do the trick, me protesting.  :laugh:

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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2014, 03:57:18 AM »
Anyway, Odeon perhaps you should be truly like your avatar and go and book a bed-in protest in an Amsterdam Hotel

I got some stripy jimjams and can send them to you!

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Bring them in person to Amsterdam. I will come too, to make the pictures.
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2014, 06:56:05 AM »
This definitely has a high chance of escalating into a full scale war, even worse than just between Ukraine and Russia. Russia will take Crimea no matter what and likely be forced to invade Eastern Ukraine to further secure it. EU/US have interest in Ukraine mainly for economic/strategic military reasons respectively and they can't just do nothing or risk appearing weak. Even with sanction attempts, they risk escalating this into something far beyond Ukraine. I'm not joking when I say conditions for a world war could brew from this.

All eyes should be on the 16th of March, that's when it'll really go to shit rapidly. The moment Crimea is annexed.
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2014, 04:12:04 PM »
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Re: Will There Be A War?
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2014, 11:33:51 PM »
What troubles me is that the world is already losing interest. The headlines are now about a missing plane and the usual Justin Bieber drivel. ::)
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