Now listen here, feminism...

[RageBeoulve]

I remember the speech. Didn't realise it had to have a name to be remembered.

Duh! Titles and looks are more important than content. 

The name and content were intimately connected, actually. 

I suck at remembering titles. Content and gist of books and articles are what I remember.

The title of the speech, was "He for She". The title pretty much sums up the philosophy behind it, and I am sure you can guess why I was pretty exasperated with what she had to say.

[odeon]

Because you can't stand it when people express opinions you disagree with?

[Al Swearegen]

Actually, what really amused me is she did a token effort, saying her male friends, once they turned 18, could not express emotion when they were upset (which sounded suspiciously like they simply did not show emotions LIKE HER and in a way that she did), and how men suffer from high incidence of Depression and suicide....and with this token "reach out" to male concerns....went on to say that to make things better for them they should support women.

FUCK THAT!

WEFORWE ? How about we all support each other? Doesn't THAT sound like equality?

[RageBeoulve]

Actually, what really amused me is she did a token effort, saying her male friends, once they turned 18, could not express emotion when they were upset (which sounded suspiciously like they simply did not show emotions LIKE HER and in a way that she did), and how men suffer from high incidence of Depression and suicide....and with this token "reach out" to male concerns....went on to say that to make things better for them they should support women.

FUCK THAT!

WEFORWE ? How about we all support each other? Doesn't THAT sound like equality?

Sure does to me. 

Course. That's how it always has to be with these ideologues, though. There always has to be a superior and lesser, and in the case of the "new" feminism men are supposed to be lesser. Every single campaign is undergone with the goal of moving women to the forefront and standing on the backs of men.

This is why I just tell feminist flat out to shut the fuck up and then walk away when they start quoting the dictionary when I ask them what they thing feminism is.

[odeon]

Actually, what really amused me is she did a token effort, saying her male friends, once they turned 18, could not express emotion when they were upset (which sounded suspiciously like they simply did not show emotions LIKE HER and in a way that she did), and how men suffer from high incidence of Depression and suicide....and with this token "reach out" to male concerns....went on to say that to make things better for them they should support women.

FUCK THAT!

WEFORWE ? How about we all support each other? Doesn't THAT sound like equality?

Because you know her, and her male friends, and that's how you know what she actually meant? Support each other is fine, I guess, for as long as everyone does it your way.

[odeon]

This is why I just tell feminist flat out to shut the fuck up and then walk away when they start quoting the dictionary when I ask them what they thing feminism is.

So this is where supporting each other ends? Weak, Rage, weak.

[odeon]

Support is easy if you only have to support those whose opinions you agree with.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Mykeru's latest video on the subject.

[Al Swearegen]

Actually, what really amused me is she did a token effort, saying her male friends, once they turned 18, could not express emotion when they were upset (which sounded suspiciously like they simply did not show emotions LIKE HER and in a way that she did), and how men suffer from high incidence of Depression and suicide....and with this token "reach out" to male concerns....went on to say that to make things better for them they should support women.

FUCK THAT!

WEFORWE ? How about we all support each other? Doesn't THAT sound like equality?

Because you know her, and her male friends, and that's how you know what she actually meant? Support each other is fine, I guess, for as long as everyone does it your way.

What exactly is my way?  Interesting retort but it kind of misses the point entirely, doesn't it? HEFORSHE is necessarily males supporting females not requiring females supporting males. Like the support from males will through osmosis derive benefits to their well being.

Similarly I do not pretend to know anyone else's emotional capabilities or limitations or expression, nor do I have to in order to have made the statement I did.

Everyone has emotions and expresses them differently. If as an 18 year old girl she found her 18 year old male peers did not she their emotions like her and her 18 year old female peers.....so what?

I do take issue with her calling this a problem in the same way it would be a problem if an 18 year old had issue in the way 18 year old girls expressed emotion and cited it as a social problem.

Of course were this to happen that boy would likely be criticised for being ignorant and sexist and females rightness express emotion however the Hell they wanted would be the battlers.

But when Emma does it she gets a standing ovation and is seen as sensitive to male needs.

See the problem?

[odeon]

Mykeru's latest video on the subject.

There's no way I'll spend 24 minutes watching this. Sorry.

[odeon]

Actually, what really amused me is she did a token effort, saying her male friends, once they turned 18, could not express emotion when they were upset (which sounded suspiciously like they simply did not show emotions LIKE HER and in a way that she did), and how men suffer from high incidence of Depression and suicide....and with this token "reach out" to male concerns....went on to say that to make things better for them they should support women.

FUCK THAT!

WEFORWE ? How about we all support each other? Doesn't THAT sound like equality?

Because you know her, and her male friends, and that's how you know what she actually meant? Support each other is fine, I guess, for as long as everyone does it your way.

What exactly is my way?  Interesting retort but it kind of misses the point entirely, doesn't it? HEFORSHE is necessarily males supporting females not requiring females supporting males. Like the support from males will through osmosis derive benefits to their well being.

Similarly I do not pretend to know anyone else's emotional capabilities or limitations or expression, nor do I have to in order to have made the statement I did.

Yet you imply something else, above.

Everyone has emotions and expresses them differently. If as an 18 year old girl she found her 18 year old male peers did not she their emotions like her and her 18 year old female peers.....so what?

I do take issue with her calling this a problem in the same way it would be a problem if an 18 year old had issue in the way 18 year old girls expressed emotion and cited it as a social problem.

Of course were this to happen that boy would likely be criticised for being ignorant and sexist and females rightness express emotion however the Hell they wanted would be the battlers.

But when Emma does it she gets a standing ovation and is seen as sensitive to male needs.

See the problem?

No, I don't. You're basing your argument on a strawman.

[odeon]

This is why I just tell feminist flat out to shut the fuck up and then walk away when they start quoting the dictionary when I ask them what they thing feminism is.

So this is where supporting each other ends? Weak, Rage, weak.

Bad form, I know, replying to your own post, but seeing I mixed your post and Al's, I feel I have to point out my error.

I now realise no support was intended on your part.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Mykeru's latest video on the subject.

There's no way I'll spend 24 minutes watching this. Sorry.

Mykeru's videos are worth the time.

[Pyraxis]

They need transcripts. I would read a transcript.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

They need transcripts. I would read a transcript.

   This isn't Atheism+, perhaps you should ask them to transcribe it.   

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