Nelson Mandela has died at the age of 95

[El-Presidente]

Rest in peace Madiba. Your long walk has ended and a great light has been extinguished.

“I have walked that long road to freedom. I have tried not to falter; I have made missteps along the way. But I have discovered the secret that after climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb. I have taken a moment here to rest, to steal a view of the glorious vista that surrounds me, to look back on the distance I have come. But I can only rest for a moment, for with freedom come responsibilities, and I dare not linger, for my long walk is not ended.”

[bodie]

Respect to The Nobel Peace Prize Winner and to South Africans first black president.

A man who was robbed of 27   of his 95 years, spent in jail.

Rest in Peace Nelson Mandela.

[Semicolon]

[Genesis]

Rest in Peace Dear sir...

[odeon]

Rest in peace. The world is a better place because of you.

['andersom']

Rest in peace.

[bodie]

Nelson Mandela dancing to "free Nelson Mandela"

[ZEGH8578]

There are many who point out that he was a terrorist, and that he hurt people etc. I don't understand how that is news or shocking or changes anything.

I remember the same tendency back when I used to hang out with commie-party-youth, "Omg you guyez, did you know Che Guevara actually KILLED people!? I HATE HIM NOW!" yes you naive, useless pricks. How else do you _force_ a government to crumble, and actually make a change? Terrorism. That's how.
"D: YOU SUPPORT TERRORISM?"
Get that head out of Americas ass, and try to see each case individually. I'm sick of reminding people that during WW2, every. Single. Resistance fighter _technically_ constituted an "insurgent", and every. single. one. who ever planted a bomb - was a "terrorist".

['andersom']

There are many who point out that he was a terrorist, and that he hurt people etc. I don't understand how that is news or shocking or changes anything.

I remember the same tendency back when I used to hang out with commie-party-youth, "Omg you guyez, did you know Che Guevara actually KILLED people!? I HATE HIM NOW!" yes you naive, useless pricks. How else do you _force_ a government to crumble, and actually make a change? Terrorism. That's how.
"D: YOU SUPPORT TERRORISM?"
Get that head out of Americas ass, and try to see each case individually. I'm sick of reminding people that during WW2, every. Single. Resistance fighter _technically_ constituted an "insurgent", and every. single. one. who ever planted a bomb - was a "terrorist".

The great thing of Mandela and others with him was that he managed to get some working structure in country after all it went through, after the whole history, and after the turning the system over. Him having been on the ANC, is part of why he could manage that.

[ZEGH8578]

There are many who point out that he was a terrorist, and that he hurt people etc. I don't understand how that is news or shocking or changes anything.

I remember the same tendency back when I used to hang out with commie-party-youth, "Omg you guyez, did you know Che Guevara actually KILLED people!? I HATE HIM NOW!" yes you naive, useless pricks. How else do you _force_ a government to crumble, and actually make a change? Terrorism. That's how.
"D: YOU SUPPORT TERRORISM?"
Get that head out of Americas ass, and try to see each case individually. I'm sick of reminding people that during WW2, every. Single. Resistance fighter _technically_ constituted an "insurgent", and every. single. one. who ever planted a bomb - was a "terrorist".

The great thing of Mandela and others with him was that he managed to get some working structure in country after all it went through, after the whole history, and after the turning the system over. Him having been on the ANC, is part of why he could manage that.

Imho, Mandela got the best out of a very volatile situation. Look at Zimbabwe - ex Rhodesia. Things are much, much different there, with revenge-driven dictator Robert Mugabe

['andersom']

There are many who point out that he was a terrorist, and that he hurt people etc. I don't understand how that is news or shocking or changes anything.

I remember the same tendency back when I used to hang out with commie-party-youth, "Omg you guyez, did you know Che Guevara actually KILLED people!? I HATE HIM NOW!" yes you naive, useless pricks. How else do you _force_ a government to crumble, and actually make a change? Terrorism. That's how.
"D: YOU SUPPORT TERRORISM?"
Get that head out of Americas ass, and try to see each case individually. I'm sick of reminding people that during WW2, every. Single. Resistance fighter _technically_ constituted an "insurgent", and every. single. one. who ever planted a bomb - was a "terrorist".

The great thing of Mandela and others with him was that he managed to get some working structure in country after all it went through, after the whole history, and after the turning the system over. Him having been on the ANC, is part of why he could manage that.

Imho, Mandela got the best out of a very volatile situation. Look at Zimbabwe - ex Rhodesia. Things are much, much different there, with revenge-driven dictator Robert Mugabe

Indeed. Terrifying, what he turned into. Poor people of Zimbabwe.

[ZEGH8578]

Indeed. Terrifying, what he turned into. Poor people of Zimbabwe.

I saw a docu from Zimbabwe, about two farm-owners, an old man and his son - both white guys. They were in court in Namibia (because in Zimbabwe their case wouldn't be heard), because of forcible removal from their farm, as well as having been beaten up. The old man sat in court with bandages over his head, Zimbabwean goons sat across the room grinning - and everyone's black! Jury's black, prosecutors, judge, everyone black And people weeping!
Namibian court sided with the land-owners, and against the Zimbabwean government, and ordered them to return the farm to the father and son - something the Zimbabwean government ignored - as expected. Outside the courtroom, a tearful lawyer of the landowners said that this was one battle, in a long struggle for human rights in Zimbabwe.
So odd... like bizarroland - all switched around!

['andersom']

Indeed. Terrifying, what he turned into. Poor people of Zimbabwe.

I saw a docu from Zimbabwe, about two farm-owners, an old man and his son - both white guys. They were in court in Namibia (because in Zimbabwe their case wouldn't be heard), because of forcible removal from their farm, as well as having been beaten up. The old man sat in court with bandages over his head, Zimbabwean goons sat across the room grinning - and everyone's black! Jury's black, prosecutors, judge, everyone black And people weeping!
Namibian court sided with the land-owners, and against the Zimbabwean government, and ordered them to return the farm to the father and son - something the Zimbabwean government ignored - as expected. Outside the courtroom, a tearful lawyer of the landowners said that this was one battle, in a long struggle for human rights in Zimbabwe.
So odd... like bizarroland - all switched around!

But, it is not switched around. Lots of the black population has it worse than they had when their country still was Rhodesia. Mugabe is a bigger control freak and anxiety wielder than a lovechild of the Romanian Securitate and the GDR Stasi could ever be.

[ZEGH8578]

Indeed. Terrifying, what he turned into. Poor people of Zimbabwe.

I saw a docu from Zimbabwe, about two farm-owners, an old man and his son - both white guys. They were in court in Namibia (because in Zimbabwe their case wouldn't be heard), because of forcible removal from their farm, as well as having been beaten up. The old man sat in court with bandages over his head, Zimbabwean goons sat across the room grinning - and everyone's black! Jury's black, prosecutors, judge, everyone black And people weeping!
Namibian court sided with the land-owners, and against the Zimbabwean government, and ordered them to return the farm to the father and son - something the Zimbabwean government ignored - as expected. Outside the courtroom, a tearful lawyer of the landowners said that this was one battle, in a long struggle for human rights in Zimbabwe.
So odd... like bizarroland - all switched around!

But, it is not switched around. Lots of the black population has it worse than they had when their country still was Rhodesia. Mugabe is a bigger control freak and anxiety wielder than a lovechild of the Romanian Securitate and the GDR Stasi could ever be.

Yeah, I know the country as a whole is a shithole, but I was refering to the targeting of white land owners, to "repatriate" land (with idiotic consequences)

['andersom']

Indeed. Terrifying, what he turned into. Poor people of Zimbabwe.

I saw a docu from Zimbabwe, about two farm-owners, an old man and his son - both white guys. They were in court in Namibia (because in Zimbabwe their case wouldn't be heard), because of forcible removal from their farm, as well as having been beaten up. The old man sat in court with bandages over his head, Zimbabwean goons sat across the room grinning - and everyone's black! Jury's black, prosecutors, judge, everyone black And people weeping!
Namibian court sided with the land-owners, and against the Zimbabwean government, and ordered them to return the farm to the father and son - something the Zimbabwean government ignored - as expected. Outside the courtroom, a tearful lawyer of the landowners said that this was one battle, in a long struggle for human rights in Zimbabwe.
So odd... like bizarroland - all switched around!

But, it is not switched around. Lots of the black population has it worse than they had when their country still was Rhodesia. Mugabe is a bigger control freak and anxiety wielder than a lovechild of the Romanian Securitate and the GDR Stasi could ever be.

Yeah, I know the country as a whole is a shithole, but I was refering to the targeting of white land owners, to "repatriate" land (with idiotic consequences)

 

And I was further elaborating on the poor people of Zimbabwe.