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[sg1008]

[El]

For another exapmle for PMSElle, take population.

If people live healthier lives, they live longer. A longer lifespan is linked with a lower birthrate, and also a better standard of living AND education AND gender equality. When you're in school you're less likely to have babies, so the avg age of new parents increases. When this happens the interval between new generations of babies is increased and the population drops. ALso, when women have more rights and access to contraception and such things, she has more choice as to when to have kids. ALso educated couples tend to put their careers and standard of living higher on their priority list, and thus delay having kids, or have less kids. Also, a better standard of living makes it easier to to have access to doctors, and healthy foods, so people tend to live longer. As humans, in every population we see that when death rates decrease, birth rates also decrease to match. So longer living and health is linked to shriking populations.

In truth, the human population won't continuously grow. It is scheduled to plateau at about 10billion in 2050.  The reason we had the big boom was because of new discoveries in medicine and public health.

THEREFORE: if you're a doctor, a teacher, a gender equality activist, a contraception provider, a nutrition provider (farmer) and all the other possible related careers, that is all a priority for healthy population maintainence.

God, and (and I know you know this) even that description is simplified and misses a bunch of concurrent factors.

I get the gist of what you're saying, but I maintain that there are so many factors it is kind of overwhelming, how to practically live one's life in an "ethical" way.  I'm not convinced I'm able to fully do it.

['andersom']

No, I've seen it more. Looks like some people really like to feel somewhat guilty. Maybe they want to hear a "there, there, it isn't that bad"?
 

Guilt trips do not work on me. If you want to include me, reason with me.

Guilt trips make me nauseous. I find it weird that some people get themselves into it, just because of the way I eat. FFS.

[odeon]

Guilt trips actually often cause me to do the opposite. The environmentalists have made me take the Jag out for a spin more than once.

['andersom']

I have that reaction when people "encourage" me to push me further.

[odeon]

Me too. I hate the preachy types.

[TheoK]

Guilt trips actually often cause me to do the opposite. The environmentalists have made me take the Jag out for a spin more than once.

Haha, I do the same thing. If something is illegal without a reason or even if someone just moralizes over something, it often spurs me to do it just because of that.

[odeon]

Guilt trips actually often cause me to do the opposite. The environmentalists have made me take the Jag out for a spin more than once.

Haha, I do the same thing. If something is illegal without a reason or even if someone just moralizes over something, it often spurs me to do it just because of that.

Exactly. I hate it when people tell me what to do. A hint is enough to get me going.

I fucking *hate* being told what to do.

[TheoK]

When I was 8 I had a school teacher who ranted about me "committing crimes" when shooting firecrackers at Easter! This was in the 1970's, when every 8 year old kid could buy firecrackers no matter the legality of them. Too bad the bitch is dead today, so she can't watch my 8" display shells 

[odeon]

When I was 8 I had a school teacher who ranted about me "committing crimes" when shooting firecrackers at Easter! This was in the 1970's, when every 8 year old kid could buy firecrackers no matter the legality of them. Too bad the bitch is dead today, so she can't watch my 8" display shells 

That's the kind of comment that would cause me to buy firecrackers.

There's a kind of a holiday near the end of the summer house season in Finland where people buy firecrackers and rockets, eat and drink, and make a hell of a show. An end of the summer kind of thing. It's the last weekend in August and it's great fun. Unfortunately I haven't been to one in years but I loved that weekend when I was a kid. I did all kinds of things with rockets and firecrackers.

[sg1008]

For another exapmle for PMSElle, take population.

If people live healthier lives, they live longer. A longer lifespan is linked with a lower birthrate, and also a better standard of living AND education AND gender equality. When you're in school you're less likely to have babies, so the avg age of new parents increases. When this happens the interval between new generations of babies is increased and the population drops. ALso, when women have more rights and access to contraception and such things, she has more choice as to when to have kids. ALso educated couples tend to put their careers and standard of living higher on their priority list, and thus delay having kids, or have less kids. Also, a better standard of living makes it easier to to have access to doctors, and healthy foods, so people tend to live longer. As humans, in every population we see that when death rates decrease, birth rates also decrease to match. So longer living and health is linked to shriking populations.

In truth, the human population won't continuously grow. It is scheduled to plateau at about 10billion in 2050.  The reason we had the big boom was because of new discoveries in medicine and public health.

THEREFORE: if you're a doctor, a teacher, a gender equality activist, a contraception provider, a nutrition provider (farmer) and all the other possible related careers, that is all a priority for healthy population maintainence.

God, and (and I know you know this) even that description is simplified and misses a bunch of concurrent factors.

I get the gist of what you're saying, but I maintain that there are so many factors it is kind of overwhelming, how to practically live one's life in an "ethical" way.  I'm not convinced I'm able to fully do it.

PMSElle, I suggest you watch the documentary "I Am" by Tom Shadyack... it is very thought provoking.

^

[sg1008]

Guilt trips actually often cause me to do the opposite. The environmentalists have made me take the Jag out for a spin more than once.

Haha, I do the same thing. If something is illegal without a reason or even if someone just moralizes over something, it often spurs me to do it just because of that.

Exactly. I hate it when people tell me what to do. A hint is enough to get me going.

I fucking *hate* being told what to do.

If I told you to jump off a bridge, would you climb up a castle?

["couldbecousin"]

When I was 8 I had a school teacher who ranted about me "committing crimes" when shooting firecrackers at Easter! This was in the 1970's, when every 8 year old kid could buy firecrackers no matter the legality of them. Too bad the bitch is dead today, so she can't watch my 8" display shells 

  I'm sure you can find many other bitches who would like to see your 8" display shells. 

["couldbecousin"]

Guilt trips actually often cause me to do the opposite. The environmentalists have made me take the Jag out for a spin more than once.

Haha, I do the same thing. If something is illegal without a reason or even if someone just moralizes over something, it often spurs me to do it just because of that.

Exactly. I hate it when people tell me what to do. A hint is enough to get me going.

I fucking *hate* being told what to do.

If I told you to jump off a bridge, would you climb up a castle?

  I might, especially if it were a medieval British castle! 

["couldbecousin"]

Guilt trips actually often cause me to do the opposite. The environmentalists have made me take the Jag out for a spin more than once.

Haha, I do the same thing. If something is illegal without a reason or even if someone just moralizes over something, it often spurs me to do it just because of that.

Exactly. I hate it when people tell me what to do. A hint is enough to get me going.

I fucking *hate* being told what to do.

  I don't care what anyone says, I'm not living off the grid and wiping my ass with my hand.