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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2013, 02:06:42 PM »
For another exapmle for PMSElle, take population.

If people live healthier lives, they live longer. A longer lifespan is linked with a lower birthrate, and also a better standard of living AND education AND gender equality. When you're in school you're less likely to have babies, so the avg age of new parents increases. When this happens the interval between new generations of babies is increased and the population drops. ALso, when women have more rights and access to contraception and such things, she has more choice as to when to have kids. ALso educated couples tend to put their careers and standard of living higher on their priority list, and thus delay having kids, or have less kids. Also, a better standard of living makes it easier to to have access to doctors, and healthy foods, so people tend to live longer. As humans, in every population we see that when death rates decrease, birth rates also decrease to match. So longer living and health is linked to shriking populations.

In truth, the human population won't continuously grow. It is scheduled to plateau at about 10billion in 2050.  The reason we had the big boom was because of new discoveries in medicine and public health.

THEREFORE: if you're a doctor, a teacher, a gender equality activist, a contraception provider, a nutrition provider (farmer) and all the other possible related careers, that is all a priority for healthy population maintainence.
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2013, 02:08:48 PM »
As I said, everything is connected. The question is not what, but rather how. We have to coordinate our activities better.
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2013, 03:44:24 PM »
There will always be people in abject misery and poverty
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2013, 04:55:32 PM »
There will always be people in abject misery and poverty

dunno about that. there will always be inequalities in income in a capitalist system, but that doesn't mean the poorest will always be in abject poverty. if you look at patterns of economic growth worldwide, people formerly severely impoverished are steadily increasing their standards of living. the smaller the gap between rich and poor, the healthier the society... there may always be poor, but not desperately poor.
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2013, 05:11:00 PM »
There will always be people in abject misery and poverty

 :agreed:
Like a bell curve there will always be the extremes best that can be done it to minimize them.   
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2013, 06:32:58 PM »
There will always be people in abject misery and poverty

 :agreed:
Like a bell curve there will always be the extremes best that can be done it to minimize them.

and like a bell curve, the extremes can shift.  :headbang2: yay stats
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2013, 12:04:13 AM »
No, I've seen it more. Looks like some people really like to feel somewhat guilty. Maybe they want to hear a "there, there, it isn't that bad"?
 :flyingbat:

Guilt trips do not work on me. If you want to include me, reason with me.
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2013, 12:12:04 AM »

@Odeon, I'd like to think of myself as more of an information dispersal expert rather than a preacher.  :M

I severely disapprove of guilt tripping, fear mongering, crap like that. Which is why I stopped hanging around activists when I was 14.

Sorry, mate, but it's what your information dispersal does to me.

One of the best guilt trips I've ever witnessed is Al Gore's propaganda movie about global warming. It doesn't feel like a guilt trip at all. It's a brilliant, brilliant piece of work. Nobel prize stuff.

It manages to make the issues personal, change them from abstractions preached by Greenpeace activists and columnists to matters that concern you directly. It's a presentation tour de force.

But make no mistake. It's a guilt trip, a guilt trip by design, and a presentation I admire in much the same way I admire Steve Jobs's presentations.
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2013, 01:21:39 PM »
I haven't seen that movie actually.  I'm not meaning to preach if u think that's what I'm doing. The information dispersal thing was a joke, I didn't actually think u thought I was preaching.  And definitely not guilt tripping.  If anything I freak out about "OMG what's gonna happen with the world " but that's just me freaking out lol. I have better days too....or I am confused now...r u saying I am guilt tripping u?
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2013, 01:24:01 PM »
All I was doing was sharing some interesting facts I picked up recently. I thought they were interesting anyways....
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2013, 03:06:26 AM »
I haven't seen that movie actually.  I'm not meaning to preach if u think that's what I'm doing. The information dispersal thing was a joke, I didn't actually think u thought I was preaching.  And definitely not guilt tripping.  If anything I freak out about "OMG what's gonna happen with the world " but that's just me freaking out lol. I have better days too....or I am confused now...r u saying I am guilt tripping u?

:laugh:

It's me, too. My reaction to these kinds of messages. Maybe I'm sensitive. :P
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2013, 02:00:20 PM »
I haven't seen that movie actually.  I'm not meaning to preach if u think that's what I'm doing. The information dispersal thing was a joke, I didn't actually think u thought I was preaching.  And definitely not guilt tripping.  If anything I freak out about "OMG what's gonna happen with the world " but that's just me freaking out lol. I have better days too....or I am confused now...r u saying I am guilt tripping u?

:laugh:

It's me, too. My reaction to these kinds of messages. Maybe I'm sensitive. :P

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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2013, 04:02:21 PM »
 :zombiefuck: Get yer hands off me.
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2013, 10:51:01 PM »
:zombiefuck: Get yer hands off me.

Too late... :pie:
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Re: Did you know?
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2013, 12:13:45 AM »
 :tickle:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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