This is what Feminism has done to Child Support Laws

[RageBeoulve]

If the state manages to sue the man, for his sperm is responsible for the conception of the child, then sex becomes a really dangerous thing.

Legally and financilly, sex has been a really dangerous thing for men for quite some time.

For women too, so, now the sexes are both burdened by the consequences of the sins of the flesh. 

'My body, my choice' this is the cry of the feminist, and they're absolutely right about that. It's the woman's body and they're the only ones who can or should be in control of it, but women aren't expected to be responsible for their bodies at the same time. Power without accountability is a dangerous thing, even when it's power over ones own body.

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[Jack]

If the state manages to sue the man, for his sperm is responsible for the conception of the child, then sex becomes a really dangerous thing.

Legally and financilly, sex has been a really dangerous thing for men for quite some time.

For women too, so, now the sexes are both burdened by the consequences of the sins of the flesh. 

'My body, my choice' this is the cry of the feminist, and they're absolutely right about that. It's the woman's body and they're the only ones who can or should be in control of it, but women aren't expected to be responsible for their bodies at the same time. Power without accountability is a dangerous thing, even when it's power over ones own body.

Why do you think women are not expected to be responsible for their bodies? It's part of sex-education to teach responsibility for their own bodies.

When people are actually expected to do something, they're held accountable to do it.

[Jack]

If the state manages to sue the man, for his sperm is responsible for the conception of the child, then sex becomes a really dangerous thing.

Legally and financilly, sex has been a really dangerous thing for men for quite some time.

For women too, so, now the sexes are both burdened by the consequences of the sins of the flesh. 

'My body, my choice' this is the cry of the feminist, and they're absolutely right about that. It's the woman's body and they're the only ones who can or should be in control of it, but women aren't expected to be responsible for their bodies at the same time. Power without accountability is a dangerous thing, even when it's power over ones own body.

wat

You heard me. And accountability with no power or control is just sad.

[RageBeoulve]

If the state manages to sue the man, for his sperm is responsible for the conception of the child, then sex becomes a really dangerous thing.

Legally and financilly, sex has been a really dangerous thing for men for quite some time.

For women too, so, now the sexes are both burdened by the consequences of the sins of the flesh. 

'My body, my choice' this is the cry of the feminist, and they're absolutely right about that. It's the woman's body and they're the only ones who can or should be in control of it, but women aren't expected to be responsible for their bodies at the same time. Power without accountability is a dangerous thing, even when it's power over ones own body.

wat

You heard me. And accountability with no power or control is just sad.

Well I saw what you typed..

So you're saying that women aren't expected to be responsible for their own bodies, they leave that up to the taxpayer. But they want full control over it, and government protection of that control.

Is that what you said? Because you're FUCKIN A RIGHT THATS GODDAMN MODERN FEMINISM fully explained right there. 

[McGiver]

Yeah, equality for all IS a slippery slope. You just never know what will happen.

[Jack]

Well I saw what you typed..

So you're saying that women aren't expected to be responsible for their own bodies, they leave that up to the taxpayer. But they want full control over it, and government protection of that control.

Is that what you said? Because you're FUCKIN A RIGHT THATS GODDAMN MODERN FEMINISM fully explained right there. 

I'm speaking clearly, and you're a smart guy, Rage.

[RageBeoulve]

Well I saw what you typed..

So you're saying that women aren't expected to be responsible for their own bodies, they leave that up to the taxpayer. But they want full control over it, and government protection of that control.

Is that what you said? Because you're FUCKIN A RIGHT THATS GODDAMN MODERN FEMINISM fully explained right there. 

I'm speaking clearly, and you're a smart guy, Rage.

Not as smart as you, Jack. 

[Semicolon]

Teenage girl sues state for forcing her to have '16-year relationship' with rapist who fathered her child after he applies for right to see their daughter

A teenage girl is suing a US state for allegedly forcing her into a legal relationship with her rapist.

The unnamed victim from Massachusetts was aged 14 when raped at her home in 2009 by Jamie Melendez, 24, who was then 20, before she became pregnant and eventually gave birth to his child.

The rapist, who had met the schoolgirl at a church youth group in Norfolk in the state, was sentenced to 16 years' probation and later ordered to pay $110 a week in child support to her by a family court.

Source

Source

Yes, I realize that I quoted the Daily Mail.

[Al Swearegen]

Not aware of those particular laws but what are you trying to say?
That for this one law everything else I said is untrue or disclaimed or that one strange law is proof of something. As for me thinking that it was derived from Feminism? I don't, but I think it was derived from some unequally stupid and unfair ideology.

Does that help,Adam?

^^^ Still applies. Firstly someone taking an Administrative decision to allow the rapist to see his child, is not by itself indicative of a legal position saying it was allowed. It may be that it was not allowed and they made a mistake or had not known the background or had thumbed their noses at a law that said the contrary or that there was no law either way

Let's assume though there was a law saying this, then does that somehow denounce every other point made on this thread? Why? Because there is a proof that other stupid rules, laws and guideline exist?

I think Adam was flat out saying nothing again but trying to imply something greater than what was substance.

[Jack]

Teenage girl sues state for forcing her to have '16-year relationship' with rapist who fathered her child after he applies for right to see their daughter

A teenage girl is suing a US state for allegedly forcing her into a legal relationship with her rapist.

The unnamed victim from Massachusetts was aged 14 when raped at her home in 2009 by Jamie Melendez, 24, who was then 20, before she became pregnant and eventually gave birth to his child.

The rapist, who had met the schoolgirl at a church youth group in Norfolk in the state, was sentenced to 16 years' probation and later ordered to pay $110 a week in child support to her by a family court.

Source

Source

Yes, I realize that I quoted the Daily Mail.

Going to assume people reading this thread actually understand what I'm talking about. Though just to make it clear, I am not, have not, nor will ever advocate for the rights of rapists. I haven't been discussing the rights of rapists. My views on rapist rights are very different than my views on men's rights. Men's rights have nothing to do with rapists or the rights of rapists.


Still, the specific rape case you've presented is an interesting one. Read both articles and came to the conclusion that his petition is evil just like him, merely an attempt to get out of paying, because he offered to drop the petition if support arrangements were voided. The original judge who referred this case to family court is an idiot, and should have ordered nothing as payment if believing the case didn't warrant restitution. She has a good case against the state for being legally harassed by proxy of the state. Yes, the court mandated child support which she and her council protested. I don't know why she accepted the support; the court didn't order that, but seriously doubt this guy will be granted any sort visitation. I'll continue to refer to you as 'he', Semicolon, though my logic constantly tells me otherwise.

[Semicolon]

Teenage girl sues state for forcing her to have '16-year relationship' with rapist who fathered her child after he applies for right to see their daughter

A teenage girl is suing a US state for allegedly forcing her into a legal relationship with her rapist.

The unnamed victim from Massachusetts was aged 14 when raped at her home in 2009 by Jamie Melendez, 24, who was then 20, before she became pregnant and eventually gave birth to his child.

The rapist, who had met the schoolgirl at a church youth group in Norfolk in the state, was sentenced to 16 years' probation and later ordered to pay $110 a week in child support to her by a family court.

Source

Source

Yes, I realize that I quoted the Daily Mail.

Going to assume people reading this thread actually understand what I'm talking about. Though just to make it clear, I am not, have not, nor will ever advocate for the rights of rapists. I haven't been discussing the rights of rapists. My views on rapist rights are very different than my views on men's rights. Men's rights have nothing to do with rapists or the rights of rapists.


Still, the specific rape case you've presented is an interesting one. Read both articles and came to the conclusion that his petition is evil just like him, merely an attempt to get out of paying, because he offered to drop the petition if support arrangements were voided. The original judge who referred this case to family court is an idiot, and should have ordered nothing as payment if believing the case didn't warrant restitution. She has a good case against the state for being legally harassed by proxy of the state. Yes, the court mandated child support which she and her council protested. I don't know why she accepted the support; the court didn't order that, but seriously doubt this guy will be granted any sort visitation. I'll continue to refer to you as 'he', Semicolon, though my logic constantly tells me otherwise.

I've seen similar cases, where male victims of statutory rape are required to pay child support. The government is biased against rape victims of both genders, it seems. Use whichever pronoun you prefer, Jack.

[Al Swearegen]

Yes I agree. Law is against rape. Males are by and large socialised to protect women and rapists and child molestors are not socially condoned. So what the fuck this may have to do with men's rights, I can not imagine. I smell like a red herring

[skyblue1]

semicolon is an 'it'

[Semicolon]

Yes I agree. Law is against rape. Males are by and large socialised to protect women and rapists and child molestors are not socially condoned. So what the fuck this may have to do with men's rights, I can not imagine. I smell like a red herring

It's a child support case that was decided against the values of modern feminism. It's a counterpoint to your original article. As for its interpretation, you clearly have one of your own.

[Jack]

I've seen similar cases, where male victims of statutory rape are required to pay child support. The government is biased against rape victims of both genders, it seems. Use whichever pronoun you prefer, Jack.

I smell like a red herring

Jack smells like flowers.