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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2013, 06:05:28 AM »
WIC and HUD are the ones I'm most horrified about defunding.  How the fuck housing the poor and feeding kids and young mothers are considered nonessential is beyond me.

Rioting will end up happening if enough is taken from us.  If social security got defunded, I honestly think the town I work in would burn itself to the ground.  It's one of those towns where most of the people are government-dependent.

That said, the people who will riot first are also largely the people who have the least power, means, and education.  =/  And, frankly, health, seeing as social security goes to people who're elderly and/or disabled (and people who game the system, but, believe me, even the ones that do aren't necessarily doing all that great for themselves either).
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2013, 08:10:02 AM »
Not sure what those two programs are Elle.

I think shutting down the  CDC though was fucking batshit insane. Center for Disease Control. They deal with bioterrorism, outbreaks of severe illnesses and are the first responders to oncoming waves of a beginning of an oncoming epidemic.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2013, 08:50:50 AM »
Not sure what those two programs are Elle.

I think shutting down the  CDC though was fucking batshit insane. Center for Disease Control. They deal with bioterrorism, outbreaks of severe illnesses and are the first responders to oncoming waves of a beginning of an oncoming epidemic.

Yeah the cdc isn't essential, but the nsa is..  >:(
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2013, 06:30:14 PM »
 :thumbdn:

My sister and many friends are off! I still have 4-6 weeks of funding, but will then be off. Some of us went through enough with the Navy Yard shooting. Idiot Tea Party fascists!!! :finger:
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2013, 06:45:04 PM »
:thumbdn:

My sister and many friends are off! I still have 4-6 weeks of funding, but will then be off. Some of us went through enough with the Navy Yard shooting. Idiot Tea Party fascists!!! :finger:

I can't believe how brainwashed you are.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2013, 07:18:55 PM »
:thumbdn:

My sister and many friends are off! I still have 4-6 weeks of funding, but will then be off. Some of us went through enough with the Navy Yard shooting. Idiot Tea Party fascists!!! :finger:
great post.  You have every right to be concerned.
This shutdown is, yet another, transfer of wealth from the middle class tax payer to the super rich like the Koch Bros.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2013, 07:41:51 PM »
:thumbdn:

My sister and many friends are off! I still have 4-6 weeks of funding, but will then be off. Some of us went through enough with the Navy Yard shooting. Idiot Tea Party fascists!!! :finger:

I can't believe how brainwashed you are.

You don't even have one! I am on the inside. I have access to way more than the tripe the media puts out.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2013, 11:00:00 AM »
:thumbdn:

My sister and many friends are off! I still have 4-6 weeks of funding, but will then be off. Some of us went through enough with the Navy Yard shooting. Idiot Tea Party fascists!!! :finger:

I can't believe how brainwashed you are.

You don't even have one! I am on the inside. I have access to way more than the tripe the media puts out.

And even being on the inside doesn't help you to understand that its always going to be like this. Tea party shmea party, bro. There is always going to be a tea party as long as we have a goddamn party system, and allow lobbying and career politicians.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2013, 03:45:51 PM »
I was really surprised to see they shut the CDC down. Afterall, who is going to maintain the biosensors that scan the atmosphere for certain select agent type pathogens. Say someone gets hold of an ebola or marburg sample from some african bat cave, or actual victim, uses it to culture the virus in vitro, or does the same with anthrax spores, then dumps a few pounds of anthrax into the air over a crowded major city like washington DC, or LA. With nobody around to monitor, nobody gets that vital early warning and extra time to respond, which WILL result in major loss of life.


Or no terrorism involved, just plain old surfacing of some particularly noxious ambient pathogen. There are still sylvatic reservoirs with endemic Y.pestis in the US, ground squirrels can carry plague for instance. What family doctor these days would recognise the early signs of bubonic plague? not until the characteristic lymphatic abscesses form, almost certainly. And if it were pneumonic plague....shit, disaster there and then if it isn't recognised and the surrounding population treated with antibiotics (pneumonic plague, whilst it can kill within hours, can be spread by the infected coughing up aerosolized Y.pestis.

Wonder if they left the DEA running...bet they fucking well did.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2013, 03:53:14 PM »
Wonder if they left the DEA running...bet they fucking well did.

Of course! Combating drugs is - after all - important!

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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2013, 03:53:55 PM »
I was really surprised to see they shut the CDC down. Afterall, who is going to maintain the biosensors that scan the atmosphere for certain select agent type pathogens. Say someone gets hold of an ebola or marburg sample from some african bat cave, or actual victim, uses it to culture the virus in vitro, or does the same with anthrax spores, then dumps a few pounds of anthrax into the air over a crowded major city like washington DC, or LA. With nobody around to monitor, nobody gets that vital early warning and extra time to respond, which WILL result in major loss of life.


Or no terrorism involved, just plain old surfacing of some particularly noxious ambient pathogen. There are still sylvatic reservoirs with endemic Y.pestis in the US, ground squirrels can carry plague for instance. What family doctor these days would recognise the early signs of bubonic plague? not until the characteristic lymphatic abscesses form, almost certainly. And if it were pneumonic plague....shit, disaster there and then if it isn't recognised and the surrounding population treated with antibiotics (pneumonic plague, whilst it can kill within hours, can be spread by the infected coughing up aerosolized Y.pestis.

Wonder if they left the DEA running...bet they fucking well did.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2013, 03:57:07 PM »
See? They got their priotities right!

Combating weed and mexicans > Keeping the country running

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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2013, 05:42:58 PM »
Interesting how they left the DEA to their dirty work, yet that takes priority over stopping an outbreak of contagion and possibly bona fide bioterrorism.

It isn't really that difficult to culture and refine non-viral agents usually. Depending on the agent in question, but many can easily be cultured and weaponized.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2013, 05:58:23 PM »
See? They got their priotities right!

Combating weed and mexicans > Keeping the country running

Because keeping the country running to these fools isn't about keeping the population healthy and productive, nor properly equipped, or even free to do as they like. Government is a business.
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Re: Government shutdown
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2013, 06:10:39 PM »
Slaves don't function too well with tularemia or anthrax though...
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