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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2013, 09:54:18 AM »
Liberty and justice for all, baby. :zoinks:
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2013, 09:59:23 AM »
You can have your fun and go live in some sort of commune but what happens to the people who don't want to do this?  Like I said it would work awhile on a very small scale perhaps a few hundred people who were dedicated to it but not for the population at large, what would you do with them?

This kind of thing is useless if just a hundred people do it. I want things to change.



So what about the people who don't want to do it?????

They will want to, once they see how successful a system not held hostage by elites or aristocracy is. And if they don't, they don't have to live in such a society. They can go be slaves if they want to.

So the  truth will set you free and  once you  see the light you'll be happy and we will all live together in harmony ?  That has a familiar sound to it  :apondering:   :pope:

No thanks :zombiefuck:
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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2013, 10:03:21 AM »
You can have your fun and go live in some sort of commune but what happens to the people who don't want to do this?  Like I said it would work awhile on a very small scale perhaps a few hundred people who were dedicated to it but not for the population at large, what would you do with them?

This kind of thing is useless if just a hundred people do it. I want things to change.



So what about the people who don't want to do it?????

They will want to, once they see how successful a system not held hostage by elites or aristocracy is. And if they don't, they don't have to live in such a society. They can go be slaves if they want to.

So the  truth will set you free and  once you  see the light you'll be happy and we will all live together in harmony ?  That has a familiar sound to it  :apondering:   :pope:

No thanks :zombiefuck:

Actually no. I know its hard to see for someone so dependent on this shitty and criminal system. What i'm interested in is DOING SOMETHING. Something to give power back to the people, and take it away from criminals. Something to stop needlessly using resources, fucking up the planet, and wasting food.

SOMETHING for crissakes.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2013, 02:01:17 PM »
Is there private property in this 'answer'?
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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2013, 05:27:22 PM »
Is there private property in this 'answer'?

The answer to that is no as far as I could get from what I read.

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2013, 05:32:22 PM »
The state doesn't guarantee you your private property either. They can take it from you to build a road and not even give you decent compensation economically.

If they expropriate farmland in Sweden, good land that you can grow crops on, they pay you the same as a private citizen would pay you for the same area of rocks  :thumbdn:

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2013, 09:24:02 PM »
Is there private property in this 'answer'?

The answer to that is no as far as I could get from what I read.
thanks. I love socialism
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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2013, 09:28:48 PM »
:kitten: OBSESSIVE AILUROPHILE :kitten:


It is far better for people to hate you for doing the right thing than for people to love you for doing the wrong thing. Never ever forget that.

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2016, 11:49:05 AM »
Guys, you really owe it to yourself to read this. Its awesome. This is a world I want to live in.

http://www.michaeltellinger.com/ubuntu-cont.php

Everyone contributes, everyone has more than enough to eat and drink. Everyone is educated as hell. No communist, capitalism, political parties, lobbyists, etc. Its INCREDIBLE. A blurb from the site:

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Our Inalienable Rights – The Rights of all Citizens
1.The country belongs to its people
2.The land belongs to its people
3.The water belongs to the people
4.The forests belong to the people
5.The rivers and lakes belong to the people
6.The gold, the platinum, diamonds, chrome, copper, iron, uranium, tin, aluminium, and all other minerals in the ground belong to the people
7.The coal belongs to the people
8.The air and the airwaves belong to the people
9.Everything that grows on the land belongs to the people
10.The beaches, the mountains and the skies above belong to the people
11.The wild animals do not belong to us or anyone else, they belong to the planet and we are their custodians and protectors

These things DO NOT belong to the politicians, the government, or any corporation who has unlawfully claimed exclusive rights over it.

The government has stolen the country from its people. We, the people need to take it back.



Transformation

Transformation to the UBUNTU CONTRIBUTION SYSTEM cannot happen in one step. It can only be introduced in a number of phases or small steps to allow people to acclimatise to the brand new way of life and the freedom that comes with implementing the new structures. These will be highly liberating and exciting times with limitless possibilities for everyone.

The first phase will be the slow and steady decentralisations of the urban metropolitan jungles that have evolve as a result of the chase for money. The repopulation of the many smaller towns and villages across South Africa will be the first objective. Strong rural and farming communities with a variety of privileges will provide the platform for all future steps.

This boosting of these communities will be accompanied by the first wave of freedoms previously denied.

First Freedoms

To recognise these freedoms let’s remind ourselves of some of our inalienable rights. If the land belongs to the people, the rivers and the coal in the ground belongs to the people, why are we paying for these? All rural towns and farming communities will have the following freedoms.

FREE ELECTRICITY

FREE WATER

FREE HOUSING

Medium term – FREE FOOD

All possible support will be given to the farmers to produce as much organic food as possible for their own community and other communities in their area. The objective is for each community to be able to provide all the food necessary for their own needs.

The ultimate objective is not only to provide free food, but to slowly move towards the complete eradication of money from the system. Some people may find this a shocking and impossible reality. Once again, all negative sentiments about these plans are based on thousands of years of indoctrination by those who control the supply and flow of money.



The Needs of Society

What do we need as individuals and communities? The answer has been the same for thousands of years. Food, love, shelter, health, education, arts, culture, science, technology, energy, clothing, tables, chairs, books, boots, hats, and much of all the other stuff we have today. What we do NOT need is money. Money has been created as tool of enslavement to control the availability of all these things, most of the time denying people of most of them.



Money

Most people are under the incorrect assumption that money is the consequence of human evolution and thousands of years of barter and trade. As hard as this may be for some people to accept, that is an incorrect assumption. Meticulous scrutiny of our human history shows very clearly that money was introduced several thousand years ago, by a small group of royal political elites as the supreme tool of enslavement of the masses. Since the very first introduction of money this small group of very powerful individuals have controlled the printing and supply of money, and thereby control the activities on planet Earth.


•Money is the obstacle to all progress and the cause of all misery on Earth.
•Money is the major contributing factor to the gross separation and segregation in society.
•Money is the cause of 99% of crime.
•Money causes families to fall apart.
•Money is the driving force behind ego, gluttony, jealousy, greed, envy and all the ugliest aspects of humanity.

 

The solution is quite clear. REMOVE the problem.

Remove MONEY from society.

 

Conclusion
•The UBUNTU CONTRIBUTION SYSTEM is a blueprint for a new social structure in which everyone is absolutely free and equal.
•A society that functions without the concept of money, any form of barter or trade, or the attachment of value to material things.
•A culture where each individual is encouraged to follow their passion and contributes their natural talents or acquired skills to the greater benefit of all the people in the community and society at large.
•A society with a new set of laws based on the needs of the people where everything is provided freely to everyone who contributes.
•A society which promotes the highest levels of scientific and technological progress.
•A society in which arts and culture flourishes allowing people to experience life to the fullest.
•A society in which spiritual growth of its citizens through the explosion of arts and culture will allow the rapid rise of consciousness to fully embrace the concepts on unity.
•The system provides unimaginable abundance of all things on all levels, impossible to imagine by those trapped in the capitalist consumer-driven environment of today.

Fucking pie-in-the-sky nonsense.  ::)

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2016, 11:52:19 AM »
Most cults require their membership to renounce money; that's how cult leaders get so rich.

^^ this.

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2016, 11:54:49 AM »
I think the main thing most are missing is the core of this design. Everything belongs to the people, and not companies, banks, or politicians. Whats wrong with that?

Uuum, because it requires theft in order for it to happen..... perhaps??  ::)

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2016, 12:08:38 PM »
God I can't believe the crap that Rage posts here.

I agree that governments are basically criminal organizations and they treat us like cattle.

I also agree that Wall Street and the big banks are a pack of thieves.

But goddamn, this "solution" would end up being 10 times worse than the "problem".

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2016, 05:37:44 PM »
He evolves his beliefs fairly quickly and that was posted in 2013. I doubt if he came back he would hold the same position.
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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #73 on: October 17, 2016, 08:53:45 AM »
Then teach by example [emoji16] if people should act a certain way show them how to behave I have been told I'm gonna be like u but I told that teen no be urself how confused could that boy behave let people behave in whatever is comfy for them

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Re: Finally. Someone has an answer.
« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2016, 01:28:29 PM »
He evolves his beliefs fairly quickly and that was posted in 2013. I doubt if he came back he would hold the same position.

They are pretty funny though.  :lol1: