Iowa FTW

[TheoK]

And, let me quess, anyone who doesn't "get it" just isnt living in the real world?

You still haven't explained to me how I don't have the right "experience" and how I'm not living in the real world btw

And let's not go round in circles here - don't just say because I don't get it or I'm stupid. Exactly HOW am I not living in the real world?

You don't understand that society is rotten to the bone. People with life experience know that it is.

So I don't have life experience?

Sorry Lit but you really know fuck all about my life.

Also it's kind of pathetic that you're judging this based on the conclusions I've come to from my experiences, rather than the experiences themsleves.

You don't know much about my life experiences, but becuase I haven't come to the same conclusions as you, I *must* have no experience?

You never went to war. I never did either. But those I know who went to war and were not broken down by the experience are all pro guns. They know from experience that without guns you are helpless.

[TheoK]

If you don't come to similar conclusions as Rage and me you must lack real life experience, yes.

This perfectly sums up why it's pointless to attempt a discussion with you.

You showed your own narrow-mindedness by starting this thread to begin with.

Does "narrow minded" mean "doesn't agree with Lit" here?

No, it means that he doesn't think that blind people should have the same right to defend themselves as seeing people. Otherwise he wouldn't have mocked the fact that blind people are getting gun permits in Iowa.

[RageBeoulve]

Insane or criminal people taking advantage of GUN FREE ZONES. Places where nobody is armed, and nobody can stop them. The recent navy yard shooting? IT was on a military post, but it was also within.....*drumroll please* A GUN FREE ZONE, SIR. What happened when armed people showed up? The guy was killed.

..yeah. 

Nice theory.

Pretty much EVERYWHERE over here is a gun-free zone.

How come we don't get these shootings too then?

Hmm... maybe it's because we don't all have access to fucking guns.

Oh my god you've stopped criminal activity and people killing each other by removing the guns? AMAZING! You've got it all figured out then! 

[Adam]

You never went to war. I never did either.

LOL

Ok so we're equal on that one then. That was pretty pointless.

Go on. Where else am I lacking in life experience? Please choose something that doesn't also apply to you this time.

btw I have known guys who have been to war before. Including a former SAS guy with PTSD.

[Adam]

If you don't come to similar conclusions as Rage and me you must lack real life experience, yes.

This perfectly sums up why it's pointless to attempt a discussion with you.

You showed your own narrow-mindedness by starting this thread to begin with.

Does "narrow minded" mean "doesn't agree with Lit" here?

No, it means that he doesn't think that blind people should have the same right to defend themselves as seeing people. Otherwise he wouldn't have mocked the fact that blind people are getting gun permits in Iowa.

Shouldn't the mentally ill also have the right to defend themselves?

But there are also laws preventing people with certain mental illnesses from owning guns.

[Adam]

Insane or criminal people taking advantage of GUN FREE ZONES. Places where nobody is armed, and nobody can stop them. The recent navy yard shooting? IT was on a military post, but it was also within.....*drumroll please* A GUN FREE ZONE, SIR. What happened when armed people showed up? The guy was killed.

..yeah. 

Nice theory.

Pretty much EVERYWHERE over here is a gun-free zone.

How come we don't get these shootings too then?

Hmm... maybe it's because we don't all have access to fucking guns.

Oh my god you've stopped criminal activity and people killing each other by removing the guns? AMAZING! You've got it all figured out then! 

Putting words in my mouth again?

Of course I never said we've eradicated criminal activity.

I think kids in the US are much more likely to be shot than kids in the UK. That's pretty much the gist of what I was saying

If you took that to mean, "we have zero crime in the UK!" then you clearly didn't understand

[TheoK]

If you don't come to similar conclusions as Rage and me you must lack real life experience, yes.

This perfectly sums up why it's pointless to attempt a discussion with you.

You showed your own narrow-mindedness by starting this thread to begin with.

Does "narrow minded" mean "doesn't agree with Lit" here?

No, it means that he doesn't think that blind people should have the same right to defend themselves as seeing people. Otherwise he wouldn't have mocked the fact that blind people are getting gun permits in Iowa.

Shouldn't the mentally ill also have the right to defend themselves?

But there are also laws preventing people with certain mental illnesses from owning guns.

There shouldn't be gun laws at all. I have explained this. There should preferrably be no laws at all, since legislation itself is a crime. Read Spooner: Natural Law

The really mentally ill (psychopaths) are running the nations, the EU etc, by the way.

[RageBeoulve]

Insane or criminal people taking advantage of GUN FREE ZONES. Places where nobody is armed, and nobody can stop them. The recent navy yard shooting? IT was on a military post, but it was also within.....*drumroll please* A GUN FREE ZONE, SIR. What happened when armed people showed up? The guy was killed.

..yeah. 

Nice theory.

Pretty much EVERYWHERE over here is a gun-free zone.

How come we don't get these shootings too then?

Hmm... maybe it's because we don't all have access to fucking guns.

Oh my god you've stopped criminal activity and people killing each other by removing the guns? AMAZING! You've got it all figured out then! 

Putting words in my mouth again?

Of course I never said we've eradicated criminal activity.

I think kids in the US are much more likely to be shot than kids in the UK. That's pretty much the gist of what I was saying

If you took that to mean, "we have zero crime in the UK!" then you clearly didn't understand

I could kill you with a pencil. Just sayin.

[TheoK]

Lysander Spooner quotes

 

[Semicolon]

If you don't come to similar conclusions as Rage and me you must lack real life experience, yes.

This perfectly sums up why it's pointless to attempt a discussion with you.

You showed your own narrow-mindedness by starting this thread to begin with.

Does "narrow minded" mean "doesn't agree with Lit" here?

No, it means that he doesn't think that blind people should have the same right to defend themselves as seeing people. Otherwise he wouldn't have mocked the fact that blind people are getting gun permits in Iowa.

Shouldn't the mentally ill also have the right to defend themselves?

But there are also laws preventing people with certain mental illnesses from owning guns.

"Law" and "right" are two different concepts. People have certain rights no matter what the law says.

[odeon]

If you don't come to similar conclusions as Rage and me you must lack real life experience, yes.

This perfectly sums up why it's pointless to attempt a discussion with you.

You showed your own narrow-mindedness by starting this thread to begin with.

They should be allowed to drive public transports, too.

[odeon]

If you don't come to similar conclusions as Rage and me you must lack real life experience, yes.

This perfectly sums up why it's pointless to attempt a discussion with you.

You showed your own narrow-mindedness by starting this thread to begin with.

Does "narrow minded" mean "doesn't agree with Lit" here?

Yes. You're also narrow-minded if you a) think guns should be banned or b) criticise the US constitution.

[odeon]

"Law" and "right" are two different concepts. People have certain rights no matter what the law says.

But which those rights are is not immediately clear, it would seem.

[TheoK]

If you don't come to similar conclusions as Rage and me you must lack real life experience, yes.

This perfectly sums up why it's pointless to attempt a discussion with you.

You showed your own narrow-mindedness by starting this thread to begin with.

They should be allowed to drive public transports, too.

 

[TheoK]

"Law" and "right" are two different concepts. People have certain rights no matter what the law says.

But which those rights are is not immediately clear, it would seem.

Everything is right that doesn't in itself hurt others. It's a very simple concept. A five year old can grasp it.