Federal reserve exposed

[Bastet]

Oh yes, they are: Rothschild family

Only in name they are.

[Jesse]

I do like Peter Schiff. I do, I do!   

[Calavera]

In addition to what TA has argued here, some things to point out:

The video isn't that recent. The same video was uploaded on eBaum's World the year 2009:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80703467#

Also, it looks like we already have the answer to the question, so this is really old news now:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/01/news/economy/fed_reserve_data_release/index.htm

[RageBeoulve]

No wonder why I couldn't find anything about this on opposing viewpoints.

[Jesse]

Rage I'd like to ask you a question. Do you know when this house of cards will collapse? I always see people saying this, but in reality I can't ever see it actually happening. I believe the world is almost too big to fail sort of speak

[TheoK]

No one can tell for sure. Greece collapsed economically recently. It isn't totally fucked - yet - since the EU will "rescue" it. But eventually the whole global economy will collapse.

[RageBeoulve]

Rage I'd like to ask you a question. Do you know when this house of cards will collapse? I always see people saying this, but in reality I can't ever see it actually happening. I believe the world is almost too big to fail sort of speak

There is no Armageddon. However there will be several recycled "money systems" if we allow it. The money as debt system is ridiculous and simple math proves it doesn't last forever. Why are depressions and such necessary to keep cycles of imaginary money flowing?

I can answer that question. To keep the criminals who have stolen everything of real value from everyone else happy. No Rich, I don't see an actual "end" to this cycle as long as suckers allow it to continue. As long as people are comfortable with the idea that they are allowed to live in their own homes and eat their own food and be citizens of their own countries by the good graces of bankers and corporate interests, this could go on forever in cycles of times of plenty and times of want.

[RageBeoulve]

This may seem perfectly fine to some. I think they are fucking insane.

[Jesse]

Fair points. I think if it does collapse they will just replace it with something else, which would ultimately in the end probably collapse? Nothing I'm sure lasts forever. so finding a money system that is adapting to change more or less is probably only the best thing you can do

[RageBeoulve]

Fair points. I think if it does collapse they will just replace it with something else, which would ultimately in the end probably collapse? Nothing I'm sure lasts for ever. so finding a money system that is adapting to change more or less is probably only the best thing you can do

I think a money system based on things which can be used, things of ACTUAL VALUE is best. I mean of course there could be paper money, but it must be backed by something. The federal reserve should be eliminated completely. No more private banks lending money to their government at interest and then watching the government tax the citizens to cover the cost.

The central bank should be government owned, and the money made and distributed interest-free! There are hundreds of other taxes that cover the cost of running this country. Income tax is just a scam.

All coporate and wall street lobbying should be kicked out of the white house, PRONTO. In fact some of the ones involved in too many scandals should be prosecuted and imprisoned for war crimes, stealing, conspiracy in many forms, treason, etc. These are some of the scummiest criminals ever to walk the earth.

[Jesse]

But isn't there only so much gold and silver in the ground? and aren't they just manipulated markets anyways? I know the silver price is manipulated the fuck out of. my dad who is a silver expert says its rarer than gold.

Oil seems to be manipulated as well. so how then can you back your currency behind a metal? or anything of value really?
Greed and corruption are never going to vanish in my opinion as long as humans are alive

[TheoK]

It is all manipulated. The values of gold, silver etc. are faked to start with, because how do you decide what those metals are worth? Except for coins, dentistry and jewelry you can't use them for much.

[RageBeoulve]

But isn't there only so much gold and silver in the ground? and aren't they just manipulated markets anyways? I know the silver price is manipulated the fuck out of. my dad who is a silver expert says its rarer than gold.

Oil seems to be manipulated as well. so how then can you back your currency behind a metal? or anything of value really?
Greed and corruption are never going to vanish in my opinion as long as humans are alive

I said "of value". What is an average joe going to use something like silver or gold for?

[Jesse]

So then what would you back your paper currency with? 

[RageBeoulve]

So then what would you back your paper currency with? 

I think the safest bet would be to go with actual commodities. Try something like agricultural yields and livestock. Maybe goods like lumber and steel used in construction. Things of -value-.