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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2013, 01:36:16 PM »
Quote from: Semicolon on August 29, 2013, 01:06:42 PM
Such as the American Revolution and the American Civil War?

The world has changed a bit in the past 148 years
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2013, 01:38:06 PM »
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
At least he did something.  :dunno:

Increased international tensions between the US and the Fourth Reich.  YAY Eddie!
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2013, 01:40:00 PM »
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
At least he did something.  :dunno:

Increased international tensions between the US and the Fourth Reich.  YAY Eddie!

I'd say that the US of today is the Fourth Reich  :(
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2013, 01:42:27 PM »
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
At least he did something.  :dunno:

Increased international tensions between the US and the Fourth Reich.  YAY Eddie!

This statement is extremely ambiguous, Possum. Explain.
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2013, 01:43:34 PM »
Quote from: Lit on August 29, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
At least he did something.  :dunno:

Increased international tensions between the US and the Fourth Reich.  YAY Eddie!

I'd say that the US of today is the Fourth Reich  :(

That's just silly, or you're just trolling.  The US hasn't outlawed talk of homosexuality, and the US isn't raiding art museums to confiscate art that makes fun of the president.  Russia is going off the deep end of history right now.
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2013, 01:44:42 PM »
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 01:42:27 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
At least he did something.  :dunno:

Increased international tensions between the US and the Fourth Reich.  YAY Eddie!

This statement is extremely ambiguous, Possum. Explain.

What part is ambiguous?  By the Fourth Reich I refer to Russia.
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2013, 01:47:48 PM »
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: Lit on August 29, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
At least he did something.  :dunno:

Increased international tensions between the US and the Fourth Reich.  YAY Eddie!

I'd say that the US of today is the Fourth Reich  :(

That's just silly, or you're just trolling.  The US hasn't outlawed talk of homosexuality, and the US isn't raiding art museums to confiscate art that makes fun of the president.  Russia is going off the deep end of history right now.

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isn't raiding art museums to confiscate art that makes fun of the president.

No... but-

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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2013, 01:51:46 PM »
Says the Russians ... who have no skill whatsoever in hyperbole.
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2013, 01:55:15 PM »
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
Says the Russians ... who have no skill whatsoever in hyperbole.

Are you TRYING to be vague?
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2013, 01:57:34 PM »
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
Says the Russians ... who have no skill whatsoever in hyperbole.

Are you TRYING to be vague?

No, I honestly have no idea why you think I am being vague.  Sarcasm isn't vague.  I was being sarcastic. 

Dropping sarcasm - you posted a video from Russia Today, who lurves Putin like its daddy, to try and prove that the US is worse than Russia.  I was implying that the network engages in hyperbole, and as such is not a reliable source for your argument.
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2013, 01:59:46 PM »
"With the stroke of a pen, President Obama signed bill HR 347 into law earlier this month. With that move, Obama made it a felony to express freedom of speech in America."

Hyperbole of the worst variety.  Someone would have to watch Fox News regularly to believe that kind of dripping bullshit. ;)
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2013, 02:01:37 PM »
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
Says the Russians ... who have no skill whatsoever in hyperbole.

Are you TRYING to be vague?

No, I honestly have no idea why you think I am being vague.  Sarcasm isn't vague.  I was being sarcastic. 

Dropping sarcasm - you posted a video from Russia Today, who lurves Putin like its daddy, to try and prove that the US is worse than Russia.  I was implying that the network engages in hyperbole, and as such is not a reliable source for your argument.

So you are relying on the source of the report, rather than the bare information. (The information is true, by the way. Able to be proven by looking at the bill itself.)

This tells me that you think mainly with feels. No wonder why I don't understand what you are saying.
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2013, 02:02:22 PM »
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
"With the stroke of a pen, President Obama signed bill HR 347 into law earlier this month. With that move, Obama made it a felony to express freedom of speech in America."

Hyperbole of the worst variety.  Someone would have to watch Fox News regularly to believe that kind of dripping bullshit. ;)

Again, here you are, flinging poo at a statement. Can you disprove it?  :zoinks:
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2013, 02:09:18 PM »
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
"With the stroke of a pen, President Obama signed bill HR 347 into law earlier this month. With that move, Obama made it a felony to express freedom of speech in America."

Hyperbole of the worst variety.  Someone would have to watch Fox News regularly to believe that kind of dripping bullshit. ;)

Again, here you are, flinging poo at a statement. Can you disprove it?  :zoinks:

Can I disprove that "expressing freedom of speech" is not now a felony in America?

Yes
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Re: Fair treatment for Ed Snowden
« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2013, 02:16:50 PM »
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: RageBeoulve on August 29, 2013, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 29, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
"With the stroke of a pen, President Obama signed bill HR 347 into law earlier this month. With that move, Obama made it a felony to express freedom of speech in America."

Hyperbole of the worst variety.  Someone would have to watch Fox News regularly to believe that kind of dripping bullshit. ;)

Again, here you are, flinging poo at a statement. Can you disprove it?  :zoinks:

Can I disprove that "expressing freedom of speech" is not now a felony in America?

Yes

Tunnel vision. The news report described how it infringes on free speech, making it harder to protest and do other related things. This is ILLEGAL, and you know it.

I'm not giving an inch on this, and i'm aware of this "taking things out of context" tactic. Its very similar to some discussions I've had with religious people.
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"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"
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