There has been a severe shortage of call-outs here lately
So, go on, Les
I don't see how me not being personally "familiar" with a culture (ie Iraq or sixteenth century whatever) means I shouldn't view their treatment of women as sexist.
Your "it's not sexism; it's just that women are so valued by men they must be locked away for protection" argument is, quite frankly, bullshit.
Viewing women as a possession rather than a person is sexism, end of. And sexism (as well as homophobia, racism and transphobia etc) is something I just "don't get", you're right
Please come up with a better argument
Although try and keep it to fewer than 1000 words. Cheers.
Of course you do not "see" it because you don't "see it". Oh fuck, you are going to be a hard ask to break through your stupidity and when I do I don't think I will have much to work with. But fuck it, kids are both asleep and will write this first piece and then watch some gratuitous violence. You know, something that gets your testosterone pumped....oh right, sorry.
This requires a bit of critical thinking on your part. Cavemen had good senses of smells and relied on smell and hearing possibly a lot more than we did. Now, Cavemen did not have showers (I know, this is getting harder and harder for someone, so removed from such things, to contemplate). So if some horny 14 year old hairy, smelly, probably parasite infested, rotten toothed (and so on) male Caveman was keen on some equally smelly and repulsive female, why did they NOT say oh fuck this, I can barely tolerate my own stench, I don't want to bump uglies with that horrible thing.
See you may say now "Oh I would not. Fuck that, that gross fucking thing would not come anywhere near me and visa versa." You are too far removed, the fact that most did, though they were ignorant and non-educated, they were not stupid. So the belonging to a social setting requires a different way of thinking things to what you do now.
But see it does not stop there. Men and women have primal urges to have sex. Now whilst the act of sex may have been pleasurable, the birth thing wasn't and killed many. Infant mortality was high. Life expectancy for mothers was not great and life expectancy general was probably around I dunno, 25? On average? There is good evidence that the men after having sex with these hideous women things did NOT dump them and actually looked after their women.
Men stayed and looked after their family. Men would go out on hunting expeditions over dangerous territories, exposing themselves to opposing tribes, predators, injury and often death. Whilst the women stayed home.
Now.....the women stayed home. Safe. Secure. Warm. With good company.
Who the fuck would think that was a good idea? The man or the woman?
In context, he a number of years ago had sex with the horrible thing. She had two kids. He now has to risk his life to get food for him AND her and the kids. She stays home. Why does she not get her own food? Why doesn't she and the other fit women go hunting too?
No there is something there greater than "Males have penises so they are sexist". There was a social obligation on the man to look after and protect his wife and the kids. A social and a moral obligation. The women, what was their social obligation to him? What were her duties as she waved him off for perhaps the last time when he when out to hunt?
I don't know. I was not there. I would imagine that it may have been something like. You get sex and more say than me and I stay warm and safe.
I think that was the trade-off.
That is not sexist. Were there sexists Cavemen? Undoubtedly. Both genders no doubt but this division of duty and the social constructs around it not inherently sexist. Different is not sexist neither is treating people of different genders sexist. In the same way as the lack of urinals in the ladies toilets is both a reflection of difference of genders and treating one gender differently than the other, without being sexist.
It was not sexist to send the man off to risk life and limb and it was not sexist to trade that off against more say in the tribe.
I would say it was necessary for that day and time in exactly the same way as it ISN'T now. Just does not mean it was sexist then
So why is all of this important? Why does it have any bearing on the the subject? Well it points to probable starting points. I will follow through on this path to our great grand parents time to here and introduce the reason why society has change since introduction of welfare and lower mother/child death in childbirth and such.
It will no doubt go completely over your head Adam. In fact the only reason I have decided to start with such a long post is because you demanded 100 words or less.......did you honestly think that was going to happen? No I fully expect a TLDR and you already stating you refuse to entertain a callout of your own making because I will not pay by your rules.
How is that turtle of yours lately. Haven't heard anything of it. Still alive and well? How long do those things live if not killed off maliciously and painfully by predators? Longer than that dog and cat of yours? Just curious