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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2013, 11:41:40 PM »
If your emergency rooms are anything like ours, then there should be viable alternatives for people who shouldn't wait until the emergency. ERs seldom do more than patch up, they send you to specialists and the like.
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2013, 11:49:03 PM »
Emergency rooms can't send people away. Of course people who don't have real emergencies might sit a few hours in the waiting room, if there are real emergencies taking priority. Hospitals aren't the only alternative though. There's also free/inexpensive state funded health centers everywhere, for people to take children for check-ups and immunizations. Not sure how those work for adults, except for family planning. Have heard of free clinics for adults, but don't know how common they are.
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2013, 04:08:00 AM »
The NHS was born in 1948.  It's founding principals:

  *  that it meet the needs of everyone
  *  that it be free at the point of delivery
  *  that it be based on clinical need, not ability to pay

"It is not free though, as it is supported through taxes"  I have heard this a lot.  It is funded by taxes but has become so integrated in our society we see it as an absolute necessity.  A bit like The Fire Service, or Education.

It is an absolute essential service to keep the public healthy.  We live on a small island and within close proximity to each other, which makes public health important for all of us, even visitors.  Yes, back in 1948 these services were extended to visitors.

It is far from perfect.  It requires more than an overhaul.  It is, however, worth fighting for.  Privatization is the worst thing that could happen.  We need to stick to it's founding principals. 
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 04:21:00 AM »
Why is privatising it a good idea, again?

Your post service getting privatised is bad enough.
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 05:09:29 AM »
Who are you addressing, Shleed?
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2013, 05:20:31 AM »
Quote from: Jack on August 01, 2013, 05:09:29 AM
Who are you addressing, Shleed?

I think Bodie.
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2013, 05:31:15 AM »
Emergency rooms are NOT free generally they are very over priced if you have insurance.  I have gotten bills for over $5000 from them on multiple occasions which are also sent to our insurance and we pay a copay of I think it's $125 for emergency room visits.   If you don't have insurance you alone get the bill they may write it off eventually but they will try and collect
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2013, 05:54:25 AM »
Quote from: Piper on July 31, 2013, 07:04:40 PM
Quote from: Adam on July 31, 2013, 02:52:31 PM
and this american guy (member of the public) stood up to speak, saying how terrible healthcare was in the US and how we should fight for our NHS

made me think of this site and some of you guys haha :laugh:

Now start your political arguments...

/ Enter Rage in 3... 2... 1...

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That's what NHS meetings need, more septic input. :zoinks:
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2013, 06:25:15 AM »
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?

We've had this discussion in another thread already

It's still "free healthcare"

We know it's paid for by taxes - we're not stupid
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2013, 06:27:06 AM »
Quote from: Adam on August 01, 2013, 06:25:15 AM
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?

We've had this discussion in another thread already

It's still "free healthcare"

We know it's paid for by taxes - we're not stupid

I was responding to Lit. :P
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 06:28:33 AM »
Quote from: schleed on August 01, 2013, 04:21:00 AM
Why is privatising it a good idea, again?

Your post service getting privatised is bad enough.
That#s Tories for you

They'd privatise their own mother if the price was right

The only things they dont privatise are the things that should be privatised - ie the royal family and funerals for fucking witches

We had this in the 80s and now they're back, we've got Round Two

Conservatives are the scum of the earth
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 06:29:13 AM »
Quote from: Semicolon on August 01, 2013, 06:27:06 AM
Quote from: Adam on August 01, 2013, 06:25:15 AM
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?

We've had this discussion in another thread already

It's still "free healthcare"

We know it's paid for by taxes - we're not stupid

I was responding to Lit. :P

I know you were

I din't mean "we" as in you and me - i meant on the forum in general. ie it's an "argument" that has come up before and is kinda pointless
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2013, 06:30:57 AM »
Quote from: Semicolon on August 01, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
Quote from: Jack on August 01, 2013, 05:09:29 AM
Who are you addressing, Shleed?

I think Bodie.

I don't think privatization is a good thing!
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2013, 06:33:35 AM »
After the revolution, the Glorious Leader of the Great Secular Republic will re-nationalise all public services  :celebrate:
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2013, 06:35:46 AM »
I get the idea that the tories sit there and think  "hmmm,what can we privatize next?"

They get it so wrong.  I remember when they privatized screws (prison guards) ... now that was a major fuck up!
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