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Where is it? Where's my government healthcare option? Where's my Obamacare?
Quote from: Parts on July 27, 2013, 05:55:38 PMObamacare is not what you or many other think it is, it's NOT heath insurance it's a mandate that you buy heath insurance or get fined. Only full time people will be able to get it through work so a lot of places are only hiring part timers to get around the rules. Part time people have to get it on their own through insurance exchanges or get fined. All insurance companies have been raising their prices in anticipation of it. We get it through my wife's work and our cost is 600-800 a month for the family plan on your own it would be double or more. So how are all these part timer low wage types going to pay for that?It's also killing a lot of small businesses, because they're now required to provide health insurance. Since the employer bears half the cost of premiums, they either can't afford it or they can only offer their employees crappy insurance policies that don't cover much more than what's paid in each year in monthly payments. It's crap.
Obamacare is not what you or many other think it is, it's NOT heath insurance it's a mandate that you buy heath insurance or get fined. Only full time people will be able to get it through work so a lot of places are only hiring part timers to get around the rules. Part time people have to get it on their own through insurance exchanges or get fined. All insurance companies have been raising their prices in anticipation of it. We get it through my wife's work and our cost is 600-800 a month for the family plan on your own it would be double or more. So how are all these part timer low wage types going to pay for that?
No one's going to get anything.
Businesses are getting a year extension on their end of it but individuals are not. Without a real public option like Canada it just will not work
Quote from: Parts on July 27, 2013, 06:29:28 PMBusinesses are getting a year extension on their end of it but individuals are not. Without a real public option like Canada it just will not work Isn't the current Obamacare a stripped-down version of what he originally suggested?
omg rage, Obama is not a fucking socialist
Quote from: schleed on July 27, 2013, 05:35:08 PMQuote from: RageBeoulve on July 27, 2013, 03:56:33 PMAnti-American ideas steering my country towards anti-American values? ATTACK. Just the way it is, man.The people in the US I have nothing against, but the US itself? For the most part, it fucking sucks. I'd much prefer my national healthcare and other aspects that most European countries embrace. Your country is often false and tacky (particularly your TV). Your country's foreign policy is atrocious and to me, the most damning. However, the recent developments like "Obamacare" is a welcome change, and is gradually showing how the US is maturing as a country. Next thing the US should do is to stop acting like they're the world police.If I were to visit, It would mostly be for the food really. At least the food's awesome. The price of the dollar is brilliant too, which means I can get stuff MUCH cheaper from the US than buying it here.QuoteIf they don't like this country, they can fuck off somewhere else.So what if they don't like it? I think they've a right to stay as much as you do. Kicking out people for having different views and opinions only really erodes personal liberties even further.I don't subscribe to blind patriotism. I don't have to like my country in order to stay here, especially once I'm not committing crimes and contributing to society. In fact, I hate my country and most of it's inhabitants - but I have friends here, a family and an education to go through.Obamacare is not what you or many other think it is, it's NOT heath insurance it's a mandate that you buy heath insurance or get fined. Only full time people will be able to get it through work so a lot of places are only hiring part timers to get around the rules. Part time people have to get it on their own through insurance exchanges or get fined. All insurance companies have been raising their prices in anticipation of it. We get it through my wife's work and our cost is 600-800 a month for the family plan on your own it would be double or more. So how are all these part timer low wage types going to pay for that?
Quote from: RageBeoulve on July 27, 2013, 03:56:33 PMAnti-American ideas steering my country towards anti-American values? ATTACK. Just the way it is, man.The people in the US I have nothing against, but the US itself? For the most part, it fucking sucks. I'd much prefer my national healthcare and other aspects that most European countries embrace. Your country is often false and tacky (particularly your TV). Your country's foreign policy is atrocious and to me, the most damning. However, the recent developments like "Obamacare" is a welcome change, and is gradually showing how the US is maturing as a country. Next thing the US should do is to stop acting like they're the world police.If I were to visit, It would mostly be for the food really. At least the food's awesome. The price of the dollar is brilliant too, which means I can get stuff MUCH cheaper from the US than buying it here.QuoteIf they don't like this country, they can fuck off somewhere else.So what if they don't like it? I think they've a right to stay as much as you do. Kicking out people for having different views and opinions only really erodes personal liberties even further.I don't subscribe to blind patriotism. I don't have to like my country in order to stay here, especially once I'm not committing crimes and contributing to society. In fact, I hate my country and most of it's inhabitants - but I have friends here, a family and an education to go through.
Anti-American ideas steering my country towards anti-American values? ATTACK. Just the way it is, man.
If they don't like this country, they can fuck off somewhere else.
If you had an NHS then you wouldn't have to worry about the low wage workers not being able to afford their healthcare
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I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.