Historical precedent for current "alarming" political shit

[El]

I sort of wonder if some of the stuff we're treating as "new" is really the same stuff with a new face, and the issue in viewing it as "new" is a plain and simple lack of knowledge.

The stuff in the US now with the Patriot Act, the NSA, and the stripping away of freedoms...

...what about when you could be arrested or detained for being a "communist" or a "communist sympathizer?"

The constant fear of terrorism, bombs, and drone strikes (I still fail to see how much worse drones are than the status quo, by the way)...

...what about the cold war?  Did we forget the cold war already?

The ability to hold prisoners indefinitely without trial (remember that, a year or two ago?)...

...yeah, we TOTALLY already fucking did that.

The worry about fuel usage, the economy, and all that good shit...

...didn't we ration gasoline a few decades back?  Haven't there been other "recessions" since the great depression?

Any other examples folks can think of, or elaborate on?

[McGiver]

All of it is déjà vu with a different name.

['andersom']

A couple of times a week, I go past a remnant of the cold war. A watch tower, to warn people in time for Russians coming by planes, carrying nuclear bombs.
And yes, the dualism Muslim/non Muslim seems as rigid as the Communist/Western world dualism, complete with all enemy image building.

['andersom']

I thought this tread was to be about the end of the Defense of Marriage Act. 

[RageBeoulve]

I sort of wonder if some of the stuff we're treating as "new" is really the same stuff with a new face, and the issue in viewing it as "new" is a plain and simple lack of knowledge.

The stuff in the US now with the Patriot Act, the NSA, and the stripping away of freedoms...

...what about when you could be arrested or detained for being a "communist" or a "communist sympathizer?"

The constant fear of terrorism, bombs, and drone strikes (I still fail to see how much worse drones are than the status quo, by the way)...

...what about the cold war?  Did we forget the cold war already?

The ability to hold prisoners indefinitely without trial (remember that, a year or two ago?)...

...yeah, we TOTALLY already fucking did that.

The worry about fuel usage, the economy, and all that good shit...

...didn't we ration gasoline a few decades back?  Haven't there been other "recessions" since the great depression?

Any other examples folks can think of, or elaborate on?

Exactly. And this is why when people make the argument, oh but <insert tyranny scenario here> can't happen to us now, we're too civilized...

I laugh in their fucking face. We're still made of flesh and bone. We eat, shit, fight and fuck. We're not "more than human" and probably never will be.

[TheoK]

Nihil novum sub sole.

[Icequeen]

Same shit, different name.

Before we were accusing people of being "commies" or terrorists we were burning them as witches.

Remember the "Duck and cover" drills that made everyone feel all safe? Like crouching down under a desk and covering your head is really going to save your sorry ass when that bomb hits. 

As long as their are stupid people in charge, and lambs to follow and not question any lies they may spew. History will be destined to repeat itself, over and over again. 

[RageBeoulve]

Same shit, different name.

Before we were accusing people of being "commies" or terrorists we were burning them as witches.

Remember the "Duck and cover" drills that made everyone feel all safe? Like crouching down under a desk and covering your head is really going to save your sorry ass when that bomb hits. 

As long as their are stupid people in charge, and lambs to follow and not question any lies they may spew. History will be destined to repeat itself, over and over again.

"In charge". We're supposed to be the ones in charge, actually. The American government is not allowed to run anything unless we give the green light. Fact. A fact that has been forgotten.

[Icequeen]

Long forgotten. Most Americans have lost the ability to think for themselves anymore.

[RageBeoulve]

Yep. I don't really know what to do for that.

[McGiver]

Yep. I don't really know what to do for that.

step 1: slap them (hard) across the face.

[Parts]

Nothings new everything is  just renamed periodically  so they can keep you scared and distracted as they take a little more each time

[Dexter Morgan]

I sort of wonder if some of the stuff we're treating as "new" is really the same stuff with a new face, and the issue in viewing it as "new" is a plain and simple lack of knowledge.

The stuff in the US now with the Patriot Act, the NSA, and the stripping away of freedoms...

...what about when you could be arrested or detained for being a "communist" or a "communist sympathizer?"

The constant fear of terrorism, bombs, and drone strikes (I still fail to see how much worse drones are than the status quo, by the way)...

...what about the cold war?  Did we forget the cold war already?

The ability to hold prisoners indefinitely without trial (remember that, a year or two ago?)...

...yeah, we TOTALLY already fucking did that.

The worry about fuel usage, the economy, and all that good shit...

...didn't we ration gasoline a few decades back?  Haven't there been other "recessions" since the great depression?

Any other examples folks can think of, or elaborate on?

Who cares?  DOMA is overturned and people in TX can still get abortions.  Go back to bed, America

[RageBeoulve]

I sort of wonder if some of the stuff we're treating as "new" is really the same stuff with a new face, and the issue in viewing it as "new" is a plain and simple lack of knowledge.

The stuff in the US now with the Patriot Act, the NSA, and the stripping away of freedoms...

...what about when you could be arrested or detained for being a "communist" or a "communist sympathizer?"

The constant fear of terrorism, bombs, and drone strikes (I still fail to see how much worse drones are than the status quo, by the way)...

...what about the cold war?  Did we forget the cold war already?

The ability to hold prisoners indefinitely without trial (remember that, a year or two ago?)...

...yeah, we TOTALLY already fucking did that.

The worry about fuel usage, the economy, and all that good shit...

...didn't we ration gasoline a few decades back?  Haven't there been other "recessions" since the great depression?

Any other examples folks can think of, or elaborate on?

Who cares?  DOMA is overturned and people in TX can still get abortions.  Go back to bed, America

You best be trollin, nigger. Those two things are good, but its not enough. Not by a longshot.

[El]

Yep. I don't really know what to do for that.

step 1: slap them (hard) across the face.

kinky.