Fuck this spying shit.

[odeon]

I always pay with cash in the grocery store. I use a stored-value card for my phone. I have an old Volvo that definitely doesn't have a black box. I live out in the woods. 

Don't you have an 850? It does have a kind of a black box, actually.

[odeon]

I'm almost positive anything you do on a social website can be monitored by the NSA.

Not everything, not the way the PRISM thing is set up. I could be wrong but it's not what that Snowden chap says.

[TheoK]

I always pay with cash in the grocery store. I use a stored-value card for my phone. I have an old Volvo that definitely doesn't have a black box. I live out in the woods. 

Don't you have an 850? It does have a kind of a black box, actually.

 

[TheoK]

The question is rather if it is possible to keep your privacy - using Tor and encryption and avoiding hotmail, gmail etc?

No.

Tor will hide your tracks to some extent but using an email provider will basically make your correspondence available to the provider.

So even if I would use strong encryption the provider would be able to read it anyway? What about One-time pad?

My guess is that it would be difficult to crack.

But I wasn't referring to encrypted messages. I'm talking more about internet traffic in general--I doubt most people will encrypt their email because the recipients would have to have access to the same encryption. Setting up encryption in gmail is probably not as easy as one would like.

What about hushmail etc? I hate the thought that these creeps might be reading my emails.

[RageBeoulve]

I'm almost positive anything you do on a social website can be monitored by the NSA.

Not everything, not the way the PRISM thing is set up. I could be wrong but it's not what that Snowden chap says.

A lie. See they have the capability of monitoring everything. I mean everything on the network. All calls, imformation attatched to origin and destination of call, content of call, all internet activity. You name it. And they might say, oh sure we have that capability....

But we don't use it. We only use a small part of it, such as duration of calls and phone numbers. You know, like the president was recorded saying for all the world to see. The president can't lie! No president has ever lied, and even if they did, our current president has never been caught in a lie! At least not more than once... twice. Three times max. SERIOUSLY you fuckers need to stop being so critical of king Obama, damn!

[TheoK]

Secret to Prism program: Even bigger data seizure

[McGiver]

[McGiver]

[Kapkao]

I'm almost positive anything you do on a social website can be monitored by the NSA.

Not everything, not the way the PRISM thing is set up. I could be wrong but it's not what that Snowden chap says.

I wasn't talking about just 'PRISM'...

[McGiver]

[Kapkao]

 

[TheoK]

 

[odeon]

The question is rather if it is possible to keep your privacy - using Tor and encryption and avoiding hotmail, gmail etc?

No.

Tor will hide your tracks to some extent but using an email provider will basically make your correspondence available to the provider.

So even if I would use strong encryption the provider would be able to read it anyway? What about One-time pad?

My guess is that it would be difficult to crack.

But I wasn't referring to encrypted messages. I'm talking more about internet traffic in general--I doubt most people will encrypt their email because the recipients would have to have access to the same encryption. Setting up encryption in gmail is probably not as easy as one would like.

What about hushmail etc? I hate the thought that these creeps might be reading my emails.

I honestly don't know.

The debate is a bit skewed, though. What people don't realise is how much information there is to read. The problem is not how to read it, the problem is what to read.

[Kapkao]

[TheoK]

The question is rather if it is possible to keep your privacy - using Tor and encryption and avoiding hotmail, gmail etc?

No.

Tor will hide your tracks to some extent but using an email provider will basically make your correspondence available to the provider.

So even if I would use strong encryption the provider would be able to read it anyway? What about One-time pad?

My guess is that it would be difficult to crack.

But I wasn't referring to encrypted messages. I'm talking more about internet traffic in general--I doubt most people will encrypt their email because the recipients would have to have access to the same encryption. Setting up encryption in gmail is probably not as easy as one would like.

What about hushmail etc? I hate the thought that these creeps might be reading my emails.

I honestly don't know.

The debate is a bit skewed, though. What people don't realise is how much information there is to read. The problem is not how to read it, the problem is what to read.

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