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Offline Jack

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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2013, 04:21:21 PM »
Quote from: ProfessorFarnsworth on June 17, 2013, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: odeon on June 17, 2013, 10:59:43 PM
Here's an honest question to you all:

Do you actually believe a petition will make any difference whatsoever?

Nope.
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2013, 11:28:55 PM »
Quote from: Lit on June 18, 2013, 02:48:37 PM
The question is rather if it is possible to keep your privacy - using Tor and encryption and avoiding hotmail, gmail etc?

No.

Tor will hide your tracks to some extent but using an email provider will basically make your correspondence available to the provider.
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2013, 11:29:59 PM »
And, *anything* you do online is potentially a risk to your privacy.
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2013, 11:35:54 PM »
Quote from: Jack on June 18, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: ProfessorFarnsworth on June 17, 2013, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: odeon on June 17, 2013, 10:59:43 PM
Here's an honest question to you all:

Do you actually believe a petition will make any difference whatsoever?

Nope.

  Me neither.  The NSA could promise to stop the spying, but they'd be full of shit.  :thumbdn:
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2013, 11:38:36 PM »
It's in their nature.

I don't trust a government agency to handle my privacy any more than I'd trust a paedophile to babysit my children.
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2013, 02:08:23 AM »
Quote from: odeon on June 18, 2013, 11:28:55 PM
Quote from: Lit on June 18, 2013, 02:48:37 PM
The question is rather if it is possible to keep your privacy - using Tor and encryption and avoiding hotmail, gmail etc?

No.

Tor will hide your tracks to some extent but using an email provider will basically make your correspondence available to the provider.

So even if I would use strong encryption the provider would be able to read it anyway? What about One-time pad?
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2013, 07:09:35 AM »
Encrypt it yourself.
Using clever code language :M

lrunpstfd åggrt htrsy påptyimoyu gpt vpfr øsmhishr :M
keyboards offer good oportunities for code language :M
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2013, 07:25:55 AM »
Quote from: odeon on June 18, 2013, 11:29:59 PM
And, *anything* you do online is potentially a risk to your privacy.
i think anything you do anywhere, at any time, is a potential risk to your privacy.
A petition won't stop this.
Laws won't change anything.

Just live your life as you normally would. Don't live it in fear.
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2013, 11:05:13 AM »
Quote from: Lit on June 18, 2013, 02:48:37 PM
The question is rather if it is possible to keep your privacy - using Tor and encryption and avoiding hotmail, gmail etc?

there is still a drone in the sky over your house, a guy looking in your windows, the power company keeping an eye on your usage, your grocery store keeping track of everything you buy if you use a loyalty card, your neighbor watching your comings and goings, the black box in your car monitoring your speed and seat belt usage, your cell phone company providing all your metadata to the government, etc, etc
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2013, 11:40:53 AM »
I always pay with cash in the grocery store. I use a stored-value card for my phone. I have an old Volvo that definitely doesn't have a black box. I live out in the woods.  8)
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2013, 01:47:26 PM »
Quote from: Lit on June 19, 2013, 11:40:53 AM
I always pay with cash in the grocery store. I use a stored-value card for my phone. I have an old Volvo that definitely doesn't have a black box. I live out in the woods.  8)
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2013, 04:04:56 PM »
Googling my real self, I find a very few old references to dinosaur websites, a few (and some outdated and now incorrect) tax informations, all of them agreeing that I have 0 money.
And finally a 'pipl' result, where they have correctly managed to attach my name to my current Facebook profile (I changed my name there a year or two ago), those BASTARDS!
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2013, 04:42:10 PM »
Quote from: ZEGH8578 on June 19, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
Googling my real self,
Don't exist on the web, with the exception of one obituary.
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2013, 05:04:01 PM »
I'm almost positive anything you do on a social website can be monitored by the NSA.
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Re: Fuck this spying shit.
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2013, 05:10:35 PM »
Quote from: Kapkao on June 19, 2013, 05:04:01 PM
I'm almost positive anything you do on a social website can be monitored by the NSA.
even on closed group pages?
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