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Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« on: June 04, 2013, 03:23:25 PM »
(I bet RageBoulevard will like this one)

Indiana legalizes shooting cops



Hold onto your holsters, folks: shooting a cop dead is now legal in the state of Indiana.

Governor Mitch Daniels, a Republican, has authorized changes to a 2006 legislation that legalizes the use of deadly force on a public servant — including an officer of the law — in cases of “unlawful intrusion.” Proponents of both the Second and Fourth Amendments — those that allow for the ownership of firearms and the security against unlawful searches, respectively — are celebrating the update by saying it ensures that residents are protected from authorities that abuse the powers of the badge.

Others, however, fear that the alleged threat of a police state emergence will be replaced by an all-out warzone in Indiana.

Under the latest changes of the so-called Castle Doctrine, state lawmakers agree “people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime.” Rather than excluding officers of the law, however, any public servant is now subject to be met with deadly force if they unlawfully enter private property without clear justification.

“In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen's home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant,” reads the legislation.

Although critics have been quick to condemn the law for opening the door for assaults on police officers, supporters say that it is necessary to implement the ideals brought by America’s forefathers. Especially, argue some, since the Indiana Supreme Court almost eliminated the Fourth Amendment entirely last year. During the 2011 case of Barnes v. State of Indiana, the court ruled that a man who assaulted an officer dispatched to his house had broken the law before there was “no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” In turn, the National Rifle Association lobbied for an amendment to the Castle Doctrine to ensure that residents were protected from officers that abuse the law to grant themselves entry into private space.

“There are bad legislators,” the law’s author, State Senator R. Michael Young (R) tells Bloomberg News. “There are bad clergy, bad doctors, bad teachers, and it’s these officers that we’re concerned about that when they act outside their scope and duty that the individual ought to have a right to protect themselves.”

Governor Daniels agrees with the senator in a statement offered through his office, and notes that the law is only being established to cover rare incidents of police abuse that can escape the system without reprimand for officers or other persons that break the law to gain entry.

“In the real world, there will almost never be a situation in which these extremely narrow conditions are met,” Daniels says. “This law is not an invitation to use violence or force against law enforcement officers.”

Officers in Indiana aren’t necessarily on the same page, though. “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’” Sergeant Joseph Hubbard tells Bloomberg. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

“It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police President Tim Downs adds. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”

http://rt.com/usa/indiana-shooting-law-state-591/
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 03:30:20 PM »
Police have bought this on themselves.
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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2013, 05:51:06 PM »
*bumpity-bump-bump*
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 06:24:35 PM »
Police have bought this on themselves.

Yes they have and the fact that they don't see how shows just how out of touch they are
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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 08:26:42 AM »
Three reasons people become cops:
1. They want to serve their fellow man. Altruistic reasons
2. They have control issues
3. They want easy access to corruption.


Less and less it is for altruistic reasons.
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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 08:33:38 AM »
Three reasons people become cops:
1. They want to serve their fellow man. Altruistic reasons
2. They have control issues
3. They want easy access to corruption.


Less and less it is for altruistic reasons.

Alturistic people tend to lean towards doctors and nurses and such occupations. Reading for old people :I

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2013, 12:22:20 PM »
Land of the free and home of the brave is now becoming the excuse of the stupid.
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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2013, 12:34:53 PM »
Land of the free and home of the brave is now becoming the excuse of the stupid.

Why? Cops are not God. They deserve to be shot if they abuse their power. Here we have this blind belief in authority again.

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2013, 12:37:07 PM »
Three reasons people become cops:
1. They want to serve their fellow man. Altruistic reasons
2. They have control issues
3. They want easy access to corruption.


Less and less it is for altruistic reasons.

I guess that 5% are altruistic to begin with but most of those are forced away by their "colleagues" or leave voluntarily when they see how much shit other cops do.

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2013, 12:38:02 PM »
Just look at Dorner.
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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2013, 12:38:51 PM »
Just look at Dorner.

Dorner was a hero, at least for shooting his "colleagues"  :viking:

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2013, 02:32:02 PM »
Land of the free and home of the brave is now becoming the excuse of the stupid.

Why? Cops are not God. They deserve to be shot if they abuse their power. Here we have this blind belief in authority again.

It's interesting how you always start from the assumption that cops will abuse their power.

/shrugs

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2013, 02:39:06 PM »
Land of the free and home of the brave is now becoming the excuse of the stupid.

Why? Cops are not God. They deserve to be shot if they abuse their power. Here we have this blind belief in authority again.

It's interesting how you always start from the assumption that cops will abuse their power.

/shrugs

Except for the 5% or so idealists they become cops to be able to do such things and get away with it.

Some Swedish cop spoke out in radio or TV some years ago how cops here always protect each other even if it means to lie in court etc.

But of course that's unpleasant facts.

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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2013, 02:49:44 PM »
Which of course means that they must all be shot. ::)

So many things wrong with your last few replies that I really can't be bothered to continue this little exchange. We've done it a couple of times and it never leads anywhere. I am extremely unlikely to agree with you because you live in the land of anarchistic make-believe, with about as much substance as a Steven Seagal movie but with a far smaller budget. And I never enjoyed the movies in the first place.
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Re: Indiana legalizes shooting cops
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2013, 02:56:45 PM »
Which of course means that they must all be shot. ::)

So it's OK that they lie, most of them, after committing crimes themselves, sometimes killing unarmed people or putting innocent people to jail? They shouldn't be punished for it?

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So many things wrong with your last few replies that I really can't be bothered to continue this little exchange. We've done it a couple of times and it never leads anywhere. I am extremely unlikely to agree with you because you live in the land of anarchistic make-believe, with about as much substance as a Steven Seagal movie but with a far smaller budget. And I never enjoyed the movies in the first place.

Oh, you resort to ad hominem again. How unusual. That just shows how much facts are unpleasant.
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