"Is she gone yet?"
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Hi Adam, how have you been?And do we need to get rid of more politicians to get you to post?
Quote from: odeon on April 18, 2013, 11:17:47 PMHi Adam, how have you been?And do we need to get rid of more politicians to get you to post?Haha maybe. I've got a list if you're really determined to get me to post And I'm good thanks. You?
Quote from: hykeaswell on April 18, 2013, 08:08:39 AMQuote from: bodie on April 18, 2013, 07:32:32 AMQuote from: Uppity Retard on April 18, 2013, 01:23:09 AM I think what is sad that many male politicians that have done just as bad or worse won't be getting their deaths celebrated. It's a good point. Gadaffi?, Saddam Hussein ?. Not really the same league. In my mind there has been no male politicians here in the UK who warrant that kind of reaction that i recall.It does pose the question that perhaps Maggie was seen as a target for hatred because she was a woman? Did we expect her to behave differently because she was a woman?I will have to give that some thought.Were there male politicians who reigned for as long as she did, without the UK being in a major war?Tony Blair won three consecutive elections 1997, 2001, 2005. His reign was only 10 years. He could have beat Maggie by 18months if he hadn't quit and handed it over to Gordon Brown who was a far better Chancellor than Prime Minister.I really don't think Maggie had any shit flung at her just because she was a woman. Had it been a man who made those decisions and hurt so many communities then i think it would be the same.I do think, people partied harder because she was elevated wrongly with a state funeral. £10 million could buy several dialysis machines for example. State funerals should be reserved for those people like Churchill. He was famously conservative but his years of service benefited the whole country. Maggie didn't do this. Churchill had personality and humour and honour. Maggie didn't. She lacked warmth. Even to her own children.Would Churchill have done what Maggie did? Hard to say. He was very conservative. I would like to believe he had more moral fibre and humanity.
Quote from: bodie on April 18, 2013, 07:32:32 AMQuote from: Uppity Retard on April 18, 2013, 01:23:09 AM I think what is sad that many male politicians that have done just as bad or worse won't be getting their deaths celebrated. It's a good point. Gadaffi?, Saddam Hussein ?. Not really the same league. In my mind there has been no male politicians here in the UK who warrant that kind of reaction that i recall.It does pose the question that perhaps Maggie was seen as a target for hatred because she was a woman? Did we expect her to behave differently because she was a woman?I will have to give that some thought.Were there male politicians who reigned for as long as she did, without the UK being in a major war?
Quote from: Uppity Retard on April 18, 2013, 01:23:09 AM I think what is sad that many male politicians that have done just as bad or worse won't be getting their deaths celebrated. It's a good point. Gadaffi?, Saddam Hussein ?. Not really the same league. In my mind there has been no male politicians here in the UK who warrant that kind of reaction that i recall.It does pose the question that perhaps Maggie was seen as a target for hatred because she was a woman? Did we expect her to behave differently because she was a woman?I will have to give that some thought.
I think what is sad that many male politicians that have done just as bad or worse won't be getting their deaths celebrated.
People are able to make rational, military decisions while still having humanity.
Should we have a Tony Blair thread?
Quote from: odeon on April 23, 2013, 11:07:25 PMShould we have a Tony Blair thread?Yes, but I reserve the right to call him a cunt.
Quote from: El-Presidente on April 24, 2013, 10:38:34 AMQuote from: odeon on April 23, 2013, 11:07:25 PMShould we have a Tony Blair thread?Yes, but I reserve the right to call him a cunt.Fair enough.
"Is she gone yet?"