2

Author Topic: My mom is about to die  (Read 768 times)

0 Members and 7 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline DirtDawg

  • Insensitive Oaf and Earthworm Whisperer
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 31602
  • Karma: 2544
  • Gender: Male
  • Last rays of the last days
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2013, 11:42:46 PM »
This is not how a life should end.

on February 25 my mom was making a left hand turn when a 17 year old male ran a red light an t-boned her.
The broke her c1and c2 vertebrae and major damage to her spinal cord.  She was dead on the scene and the paramedics brought her heart back.  She is completely paralyzed and in a long term care facility.  She is alive because a machine that breaths for her (respirator) and a machine that keep her heart firing (pacemaker)
She will die at any time because she is slowly losing her kidney function and her heart crashes from time to time or any one of the other associated risks due to paralysis.
She is 70.
ften hurtf
I am not feeling much about this other than the feeling that she should just let go.  Request that he respirator us turned off.  This is not living.  And this is also not how people are meant to die.


This saddens me to think that our current level of medical "prowess"  (I use such an inappropriate word to describe the unconscionable excess of pursuit, which overtakes reasoned advance, and can become so often hurtful ...) has evolved so far as to be so tempted to extend the definition and the possibility of life and leave behind the actual meaning of life in their mechanical efforts.
It seems that they have done so for, or rather TO, your mom for no reason other that they can.

You have my empathy.

Godspeed, my friend!
Jimi Hendrix: When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. 

Ghandi: Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.

The end result of life's daily pain and suffering, trials and failures, tears and laughter, readings and listenings is an accumulation of wisdom in its purest form.

Offline DirtDawg

  • Insensitive Oaf and Earthworm Whisperer
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 31602
  • Karma: 2544
  • Gender: Male
  • Last rays of the last days
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2013, 11:51:58 PM »
I honestly do not need sympathy.  Just wanted to put it out there.  Just kind of release it.

What I need is results.  Her moving passed this life would be best for all involved, IMHO.

Really good advice about a kind of living will!!

Had my very wise father not had this done in advance of his own bodily failure, I would have had the knowledge, and possibly a view, that the attending physicians would have attempted to pound on him and mercilessly try to continually revive him, instead of allowing him to die peacefully in my arms.

« Last Edit: April 06, 2013, 11:53:43 PM by DirtDawg »
Jimi Hendrix: When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. 

Ghandi: Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.

The end result of life's daily pain and suffering, trials and failures, tears and laughter, readings and listenings is an accumulation of wisdom in its purest form.

Offline El-Presidente

  • Caliph of the Aspie Elite
  • Modulator
  • Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 1706
  • Karma: 177
  • Gender: Male
  • I love kitties! Fluffy kitties are nice!!
    • ASD Community
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2013, 01:02:06 AM »
I am so sorry. This is no way to lose a loved one. I hope the kid was suitably punished for what he did. Jail time is what he deserves.

Offline McGiver

  • Hetero sexist tragedy
  • Caretaker Admin
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 43309
  • Karma: 1341
  • Gender: Male
  • Do me.
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2013, 08:35:15 AM »
Fuck, that's awful.

Have you been able to communicate with her at all about what she wants?
she wants to live.
Which makes zero logical sense to me.  She has believed in Jesus and heaven her entire life.  She is deeply involved in the church. 
Shouldn't she want to go home and be with Jesus? Let go. Let god!
Misunderstood.

Offline ZEGH8578

  • Idealist Nihilist Socialist Primitivist Anarchist
  • Elder
  • Obsessive Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 7548
  • Karma: 492
  • Gender: Male
  • NTWADUMELA
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2013, 09:04:51 AM »
Sorry to hear that
A friend of mine recently lost his mom to illness, which was weird enough while it lasted... Traffic accidents are the worst, because they should be so avoidable.

Offline Icequeen

  • News Box Slave
  • Insane Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 12027
  • Karma: 2031
  • Gender: Female
  • I peopled today.
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2013, 09:22:45 AM »
she wants to live.
Which makes zero logical sense to me.  She has believed in Jesus and heaven her entire life.  She is deeply involved in the church. 
Shouldn't she want to go home and be with Jesus? Let go. Let god!

Maybe fear of the unknown. That was my father, he fought until the very end.

With all his organs failing he was still hoping for a transplant or a miracle.

Mom was ready, she started talking about dying and writing everything down months prior to anything happening.


Offline Pyraxis

  • Werewolf Wrangler of the Aspie Elite
  • Caretaker Admin
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 16680
  • Karma: 1433
  • aka Daria
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2013, 10:46:09 AM »
she wants to live.
Which makes zero logical sense to me.  She has believed in Jesus and heaven her entire life.  She is deeply involved in the church. 
Shouldn't she want to go home and be with Jesus? Let go. Let god!

Maybe she's worried about you. Or other people in your family. Maybe she has things she still wants to say.
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

Offline Queen Victoria

  • Ruler of Aspie Universe
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 28244
  • Karma: 2805
  • Gender: Female
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2013, 10:56:50 AM »
I don't know what to say.  Except that your whole family and Mom will be in my thoughts and prayers. 
A good monarch is a treasure. A good politician is an oxymoron.

My brain is both uninhibited and uninhabited.

:qv:

Offline McGiver

  • Hetero sexist tragedy
  • Caretaker Admin
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 43309
  • Karma: 1341
  • Gender: Male
  • Do me.
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2013, 11:30:53 AM »
she wants to live.
Which makes zero logical sense to me.  She has believed in Jesus and heaven her entire life.  She is deeply involved in the church. 
Shouldn't she want to go home and be with Jesus? Let go. Let god!

Maybe she's worried about you. Or other people in your family. Maybe she has things she still wants to say.
I'm rich, bitch...not really but I'm really, really comfortable.  Both my brothers are well adjusted and doing great.
My step dad is 86 and there is nothing she can do for him, if anything she would be way more than he can care for.
Misunderstood.

Offline El

  • Unofficial Weird News Reporter of the Aspie Elite
  • News Box Slave
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 21926
  • Karma: 2615
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2013, 01:01:51 PM »
Fuck, that's awful.

Have you been able to communicate with her at all about what she wants?
she wants to live.
Which makes zero logical sense to me.  She has believed in Jesus and heaven her entire life.  She is deeply involved in the church. 
Shouldn't she want to go home and be with Jesus? Let go. Let god!
I am glad that she is able to communicate her wishes to you.  I am sorry she is choosing such a difficult route, but IMO giving a dying person control/power to make decisions over their own care- whether you agree with it or not- is just about the best thing you can do for another human being.  I can't imagine wanting to hang on, either, but I certainly know when I go I want my wishes to be respected.
it is well known that PMS Elle is evil.
I think you'd fit in a 12" or at least a 16" firework mortar
You win this thread because that's most unsettling to even think about.

Offline lutra

  • Elder
  • Obsessive Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 5350
  • Karma: 481
  • Gender: Male
  • nosce te ipsum
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2013, 02:09:56 PM »
Don't know what to say other than I'm sorry to read this also, McM.
Solum certum nihil esse certi et homine nihil miserius aut superbius.

Offline 'andersom'

  • Pure Chocolate Bovine PIMP of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 39199
  • Karma: 2556
  • Gender: Female
  • well known as hyke.
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2013, 03:27:02 PM »
Fuck, that's awful.

Have you been able to communicate with her at all about what she wants?
she wants to live.
Which makes zero logical sense to me.  She has believed in Jesus and heaven her entire life.  She is deeply involved in the church. 
Shouldn't she want to go home and be with Jesus? Let go. Let god!
I am glad that she is able to communicate her wishes to you.  I am sorry she is choosing such a difficult route, but IMO giving a dying person control/power to make decisions over their own care- whether you agree with it or not- is just about the best thing you can do for another human being.  I can't imagine wanting to hang on, either, but I certainly know when I go I want my wishes to be respected.
I agree. And it may be that the coming weeks what she wants will change. She may in a few weeks, or even sooner, think that it all has been enough. It takes time to accept that life will end. And it may take time before she can let go of unfounded hope.
I can do upside down chocolate moo things!

Offline McGiver

  • Hetero sexist tragedy
  • Caretaker Admin
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 43309
  • Karma: 1341
  • Gender: Male
  • Do me.
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2013, 03:34:17 PM »
That is what the social worker at her hospital said.  Many times people, I her condition, aren't willing to face their reality because all their lives they've gotten sick and healed or broke a bone and mended. 
 After some time living with this reality it begins to sink in and they choose to let go.

Next week they are going to have a quality if life conference at her hospital involving doctors nurse and family, where they are going to be rather blunt about everything that's going on.  I will join via FaceTime.

Misunderstood.

Offline 'andersom'

  • Pure Chocolate Bovine PIMP of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 39199
  • Karma: 2556
  • Gender: Female
  • well known as hyke.
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2013, 03:37:14 PM »
It's good that the hospital is willing to do this, and that they are taking her ways to communicate serious.
I can do upside down chocolate moo things!

Offline Al Swearegen

  • Pussycat of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 18721
  • Karma: 2240
  • Always front on and in your face
Re: My mom is about to die
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2013, 05:03:59 PM »
Fuck, that's awful.

Have you been able to communicate with her at all about what she wants?
she wants to live.
Which makes zero logical sense to me.  She has believed in Jesus and heaven her entire life.  She is deeply involved in the church. 
Shouldn't she want to go home and be with Jesus? Let go. Let god!

Indeed. Mate. Makes no sense to me. Sorry to hear this.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap