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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2013, 07:23:14 PM »
I often wondered about if America will always be an empire.
Unless we are destroyed by war I bet we will until a one world government takes control in the next century.

I think with the concentration of information that we will always be able to correct our way.  Shit these days are down to a science.  We can learn from others mistakes.
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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #106 on: April 10, 2013, 08:28:35 PM »
I often wondered about if America will always be an empire.
Unless we are destroyed by war I bet we will until a one world government takes control in the next century.

I think with the concentration of information that we will always be able to correct our way.  Shit these days are down to a science.  We can learn from others mistakes.

I'm afraid we'll be like most peoples in history and reject the "learn from other's mistakes."  Can = ability, will = action.
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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2013, 11:10:31 AM »
It's no use working in Sweden - my dad has to pay 50000 kronor in tax arrears this year, on top of the quarter of a million kronor or so that he has already paid  :thumbdn:

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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2013, 11:12:15 AM »
It's no use working in Sweden - my dad has to pay 50000 kronor in tax arrears this year, on top of the quarter of a million kronor or so that he has already paid  :thumbdn:

And why is that? Why so much? Don't you wonder? ;)
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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2013, 11:18:02 AM »
Ah, but it would actually be cheaper for him to give me 100000 kronor/year directly instead of me being on disability, if he didn't have to pay tax.

But it's pretty sick in Sweden: almost 10 million people. 4½ million are retired or on disability.

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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2013, 11:20:17 AM »
Ah, but it would actually be cheaper for him to give me 100000 kronor/year directly instead of me being on disability, if he didn't have to pay tax.

But it's pretty sick in Sweden: almost 10 million people. 4½ million are retired or on disability.

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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2013, 11:22:14 AM »
Ah, but it would actually be cheaper for him to give me 100000 kronor/year directly instead of me being on disability, if he didn't have to pay tax.

But it's pretty sick in Sweden: almost 10 million people. 4½ million are retired or on disability.

  Maybe it's something in the lutefisk?  :dunno:
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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2013, 12:02:01 PM »
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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2013, 12:05:41 PM »
It's no use working in Sweden - my dad has to pay 50000 kronor in tax arrears this year, on top of the quarter of a million kronor or so that he has already paid  :thumbdn:

That's damn near how much I make in a year!!! :yikes:

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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2013, 06:14:56 PM »
Ah, but it would actually be cheaper for him to give me 100000 kronor/year directly instead of me being on disability, if he didn't have to pay tax.

But it's pretty sick in Sweden: almost 10 million people. 4½ million are retired or on disability.
How the fuck do they sustain that?  Is your government flipping the fuck out right now and calling the whole thing a pyramid scheme, or does it all work out OK?
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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2013, 01:24:51 AM »
It's no use working in Sweden - my dad has to pay 50000 kronor in tax arrears this year, on top of the quarter of a million kronor or so that he has already paid  :thumbdn:

Pure socialism does not work.  :thumbdn:

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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2013, 01:44:30 AM »
Ah, but it would actually be cheaper for him to give me 100000 kronor/year directly instead of me being on disability, if he didn't have to pay tax.

But it's pretty sick in Sweden: almost 10 million people. 4½ million are retired or on disability.
How the fuck do they sustain that?  Is your government flipping the fuck out right now and calling the whole thing a pyramid scheme, or does it all work out OK?

It has worked this way for many years. The taxes used to be even higher, though. The current government isn't a socialist one, and they try to make as many people as possible to work, sometimes even people who are too sick to work, but if you have an "old" retirement or disability pension, you keep it.

If nothing changes, I think the Swedish welfare systems will collaps within about 20 years or so.

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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2013, 02:04:29 AM »
1 kronor = $0.15 Australian dollar.
100 000 kronors equal about what I paid in taxes last year. Tax is a bastard but a necessary evil.
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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2013, 02:09:23 AM »
100000 kronor is what I get in disability. My dad pays 300000 kronor or more in tax.

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Re: "Unfit fot work- The startling rise of disability in America"
« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2013, 02:12:02 AM »
Ah OK. Misread. Tax sucks.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap