I don't know how you should feel, or even how I feel. I only know I have been honest about what I think. Like you, I find it very hard to truly understand any other point of view than my own. I don't understand why you've said the things you've said anymore than you will understand me, but I see this as an ability we both struggle. I can only decide if I will accept your point of view, and I do, because I respect you and your opinion regardless of how much I disagree or don't understand. I'm truly bothered that this is now about feelings, and you feel I've wronged you somehow. This was never my intention.
I do not find it hard to understand other's points of view. I find it incredibly hard to see where you are coming from.
This is not 'now about feelings. " Not changing the goalposts. Look back through the thread and you will see me saying over and over that I do not know why you would come at me like this and that the accusations and whatever are quantifiable.
You accuse me of breaking the rules - Easy fix. Did I break the rules? If not, this kind of falls over. I hadn't. It fell over.
You accuse me of using legal semantic to try to distract from rule breaking activities - easy fixed. Rules are based on Laws and researching appropriate laws points to my not having "crossed the line" ..... or even fucking close
You accuse me of Not admitting knowing I had stepped over the line and not owning my actions - Disapproved this accusation.
You accuse me of bringing up unacceptable I2 discussion - Proved this incorrect
You accuse me of calling Alfonso a dog fucker - had not said this and when pushed, the BEST you could do is quote crop a sentence to say what you wanted to sat. I then showed a similar example of me saying the opposite of something by quote cropping. About as disingenuous and dishonest a tactic and changing quotes and posting "Fixed"
You accused me of trying to talk my way out of "it" - I dunno what "it" was, but I was never in "it". If I say that I never said "x" and you have accused me of "x' and you can't find where i said "x" then really me talking about having never said "x" is not me talking myself out of responsibility....is it?
BUT what is not quantifiable nor objective is why you would go accusing me of all of this in the last couple of days?
Also I have to think "OK I have been accused of shit I have not done, and with motive and intent I have not had, and with values I do not hold. In disproving them, have had more and more thrown at me. All by the same person. When the final key issue was discovered, I have asked for proof and not only was this not there but the evidence crop quoted and a number of demands not to question its transparent dishonesty and shake hands and walk away.
Is this above sounding like a person I should feel well disposed to, or not?
Do you think the actions of that person look reasonable or not?
Do you think I should say "Oh don't worry I love being accused of shit I did not do by people I like?"
Yeah. I am not thinking that sounds logical, reasonable or wise? In fact I may well be on my guard around that person for when they out of the blue decide to start throwing accusations my way, for no good reason.
Jack. I think the only thing i can say is whilst your argument was tenacious, and passionate, i no more am closer to seeing your position as having any redeemable qualities and no closer to appreciating why you would try this shit on.
I am not cross. Not even frustrated now. Very disappointed with you. That is about all. Can't say I trust you or your motives now. None of what you say seems to have made any sense or seems to have had good intent. It may, I simply don't know. Therefore I do not trust you. You are in my mind at any point a possible hair width away from another accusation on something I did not say, think, feel or whatever and it could launch without notice at any moment for any reason.
Will not bother needling or sparring with you. Plenty of the board for both of us. I will keep a wary eye on you expecting the left field accusation, but will not dog you. Of course I will contest anything you throw at me. But no need for me to get in your face otherwise.
Damn shame this whole business. Can't imagine it was worth it.