Marx fabricated screen shots to get Alfonso banned.

[Al Swearegen]

Not claiming to read your mind, only assuming you know the rules regarding discussion of bestiality. Don't really expect you to admit you might have stepped over the line a little. Can't really show you the rules when already expressing uncertainty on the exact implications of said rules. An admin woulde need to do that. Didn't mean to imply you expect special treatment, only making my own assumption you will receive it. This assumption is based on past experience. Like the time scrap posted a nude of an underage old girlfriend. He was warned by the membership to self-moderate, not auto-slammed with a ban hammer. I assumed this was him being allowed a bit of understanding and allowing him to correct his error. Even marx was allowed the grace of self-moderation concerning his posts about Bets. This may have been appropriate, maybe not. Don't really know or have any stake in such decisions; not an admin and wouldn't want such burden. As for backing my claim, what exactly would you like me to back? That you know the rules? Only you can affirm that.

I don't really care what you "expect", you said "You know". No I don't, know I have or did and you are just inferring against (for some reason that I can't guess) that I am deceitful or dishonest. I have not a clue why you are choosing to honour me with this disrespect or where ANYTHING i have said on here would give you the indication I either play for favouritism or that i am deceitful or dishonest.
Anywhere Jack. Help me out.

Again, you made the call so find me that incriminating law breaking and I will fall on my sword for you. Until then, stop with the insinuations that I am dishonest OR prove me to be. Hell I am not picky.

For your interest, I am going to research this myself just so you will not try and accuse me of not being pro-active about this.

[Al Swearegen]

Found this so far, Jack

All services provided by HostGator may only be used for lawful purposes. The laws of the State of Florida, the State of Texas, and the United States of America apply
3.) Zero Tolerance Spam Policy
We take a zero tolerance stance against sending of unsolicited e-mail, bulk emailing, and spam. "Safe lists", purchased lists, and selling of lists will be treated as spam. Any user who sends out spam will have their account terminated with or without notice.Potential harm to minors is strictly forbidden, including but not limited to child pornography or content perceived to be child pornography (Lolita):
Any site found to host child pornography or linking to child pornography will be suspended immediately without notice.

Now I am going to try to look up the laws of Florida and Texas to see what or if any reasonable interpretations of any such laws may see me as having "crossed the line". I will be back with findings. As the person who threw this accusation out there...what have you got so far?

[Jack]

Odeon should clarify the line of the tos regarding discussion of paedophilia and bestiality.

Actually Jack it rather sounds like it is you who "knows" I have broken the rules (and know that i know?). is that right? Is that not what you wrote? if you know, then you must have good reason to know and not have to bother Odeon to show it. You know and so you have the answers. Show me and I will ask to have my account deleted. You should have that to hand in order to make the claim, right?

Actually it's more a matter of opinion. I think you know the rules and know if you're breaking them or not. So, yes. that's right. Don't delete your account, Sir. It messes up the database. Maybe being misunderstood here; not seeking to have anyone banned, especially not you; quite like you.

[Al Swearegen]

Odeon should clarify the line of the tos regarding discussion of paedophilia and bestiality.

Actually Jack it rather sounds like it is you who "knows" I have broken the rules (and know that i know?). is that right? Is that not what you wrote? if you know, then you must have good reason to know and not have to bother Odeon to show it. You know and so you have the answers. Show me and I will ask to have my account deleted. You should have that to hand in order to make the claim, right?

Actually it's more a matter of opinion. I think you know the rules and know if you're breaking them or not. So, yes. that's right. Don't delete your account, Sir. It messes up the database. Maybe being misunderstood here; not seeking to have anyone banned, especially not you; quite like you.

Nope, if I am breaking the rules i will go. No it is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of whether someone is dishonest as you have specifically indicated I am (Again, no idea where you got this from) and that I have broken rules and will seek favouritism in the event that i will (no idea where you got this from.

I am going to look up Florida State Law 828.126, F.S to see what I can glean from that.

[Jack]

Found this so far, Jack

All services provided by HostGator may only be used for lawful purposes. The laws of the State of Florida, the State of Texas, and the United States of America apply
3.) Zero Tolerance Spam Policy
We take a zero tolerance stance against sending of unsolicited e-mail, bulk emailing, and spam. "Safe lists", purchased lists, and selling of lists will be treated as spam. Any user who sends out spam will have their account terminated with or without notice.Potential harm to minors is strictly forbidden, including but not limited to child pornography or content perceived to be child pornography (Lolita):
Any site found to host child pornography or linking to child pornography will be suspended immediately without notice.

Now I am going to try to look up the laws of Florida and Texas to see what or if any reasonable interpretations of any such laws may see me as having "crossed the line". I will be back with findings. As the person who threw this accusation out there...what have you got so far?

Actually the tos agreement for this site appeared quite strict the one time reading it; could read it again if this discussion is to based on what the tos actually says. Am going more on what odeon has said concerning the rules of his site, and how things have been handled in the past.

This thread is locked so can't quote him.
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,17570.msg764947/topicseen.html

Discuss. What is Intensity, today? How about tomorrow? And never mind the past; this is about what it is, now, and what it should be. People have left and others have joined. We won't be going back cos we shouldn't. It's not healthy.

Me, I still think that it's about enabling the spazzes cos we won't moderate them unless required to do so by the TOS (bestiality, that sort of thing). It's the place where we can say what's on our minds and be chastised for it. It's the place where we can speak our minds or choose to post mindless banter. It's the place for high Internet drama, and it's the place for sadness and quiet reflection (well, it could be). It's not for the sensitive type, but these days I wonder if it's because of a lack of interest rather than actual fear.

It's also just another message board and as such, not the end of the world.

[Jack]

Odeon should clarify the line of the tos regarding discussion of paedophilia and bestiality.

Actually Jack it rather sounds like it is you who "knows" I have broken the rules (and know that i know?). is that right? Is that not what you wrote? if you know, then you must have good reason to know and not have to bother Odeon to show it. You know and so you have the answers. Show me and I will ask to have my account deleted. You should have that to hand in order to make the claim, right?

Actually it's more a matter of opinion. I think you know the rules and know if you're breaking them or not. So, yes. that's right. Don't delete your account, Sir. It messes up the database. Maybe being misunderstood here; not seeking to have anyone banned, especially not you; quite like you.

Nope, if I am breaking the rules i will go. No it is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of whether someone is dishonest as you have specifically indicated I am (Again, no idea where you got this from) and that I have broken rules and will seek favouritism in the event that i will (no idea where you got this from.

I am going to look up Florida State Law 828.126, F.S to see what I can glean from that.

Sure it's a matter of opinion when expressing my opinion. I think you know what topics are considered unacceptable here by the admins. This is my opinion. Where did I say you will seek favoritism; have already explained you didn't. What has florida law to do with it? Will it be used to define the lines of the tos regarding banning marx?

[Al Swearegen]

Sure it's a matter of opinion when expressing my opinion. I think you know what topics are considered unacceptable here by the admins. This is my opinion. Where did I say you will seek favoritism; have already explained you didn't. What has florida law to do with it? Will it be used to define the lines of the tos regarding banning marx?

Found this so far, Jack

All services provided by HostGator may only be used for lawful purposes. The laws of the State of Florida, the State of Texas, and the United States of America apply
3.) Zero Tolerance Spam Policy
We take a zero tolerance stance against sending of unsolicited e-mail, bulk emailing, and spam. "Safe lists", purchased lists, and selling of lists will be treated as spam. Any user who sends out spam will have their account terminated with or without notice.Potential harm to minors is strictly forbidden, including but not limited to child pornography or content perceived to be child pornography (Lolita):
Any site found to host child pornography or linking to child pornography will be suspended immediately without notice.

Now I am going to try to look up the laws of Florida and Texas to see what or if any reasonable interpretations of any such laws may see me as having "crossed the line". I will be back with findings. As the person who threw this accusation out there...what have you got so far?

828.126 Sexual activities involving animals.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Sexual conduct” means any touching or fondling by a person, either directly or through clothing, of the sex organs or anus of an animal or any transfer or transmission of semen by the person upon any part of the animal for the purpose of sexual gratification or arousal of the person.
(b) “Sexual contact” means any contact, however slight, between the mouth, sex organ, or anus of a person and the sex organ or anus of an animal, or any penetration, however slight, of any part of the body of the person into the sex organ or anus of an animal, or any penetration of the sex organ or anus of the person into the mouth of the animal, for the purpose of sexual gratification or sexual arousal of the person.
(2) A person may not:
(a) Knowingly engage in any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal;
(b) Knowingly cause, aid, or abet another person to engage in any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal;
(c) Knowingly permit any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal to be conducted on any premises under his or her charge or control; or
(d) Knowingly organize, promote, conduct, advertise, aid, abet, participate in as an observer, or perform any service in the furtherance of an act involving any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal for a commercial or recreational purpose.
(3) A person who violates this section commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(4) This section does not apply to accepted animal husbandry practices, conformation judging practices, or accepted veterinary medical practices.
History.—s. 1, ch. 2011-42.

Texas repealed Bestiality Laws in 1974

Sure it's a matter of opinion when expressing my opinion. I think you know what topics are considered unacceptable here by the admins. This is my opinion. Where did I say you will seek favoritism; have already explained you didn't. What has florida law to do with it? Will it be used to define the lines of the tos regarding banning marx?

Sure you know you have, and you will likely be given patience in the matter as a long standing member, and maybe you should. Not saying you should be banned; in fact, don't know that marx should have been either. Never really understood where the lines of these rules lie. More intersted in the thoughts of the admin who banned him.

IF I "know" I have "stepped across the line" and "broken the rules" and am "given patience" AND accept this favouritism. I am playing for favouritism.
This IS what you are saying as far as i can see. I say exactly the opposite.

[Jack]

Crap, sir. Not talking about the law, haven't mentioned the law, or implied you've broken any law. Talking about the rules of this site and how they're enforced. Save the legal semantics for the admins.

[Al Swearegen]

Crap, sir. Not talking about the law, haven't mentioned the law, or implied you've broken any law. Talking about the rules of this site and how they're enforced. Save the legal semantics for the admins.

Nope. Sorry but I am concern not with semantics but with the TOS. If I have broken TOS and broken site rules i am leaving the site. You "know" I have and are not making a case for it. I am scrambling through the TOS and see it mentions that a breach of TOS is anything that breaches law in Texas or florida. That IS part of the TOS. Right?
So I have looked up Law in Florida and Texas around bestiality as you are insinuating and to see if my referenced quote to what another member wrote on bestiality about Cartman is a breach of that.

So crap nothing.

You were insinuating I had broken the rules and in knowledge i was ...weren't you? IF you are then you don't have an issue with me confirming it one way or another do you? Help me out here. It seems like i am putting more work in trying to nut this out that you and you are the one accussing me.

doesn't seem right does it?

[Jack]

Nope. Sorry but I am concern not with semantics but with the TOS. If I have broken TOS and broken site rules i am leaving the site. You "know" I have and are not making a case for it. I am scrambling through the TOS and see it mentions that a breach of TOS is anything that breaches law in Texas or florida. That IS part of the TOS. Right?
So I have looked up Law in Florida and Texas around bestiality as you are insinuating and to see if my referenced quote to what another member wrote on bestiality about Cartman is a breach of that.

Didn't mention the tos, but rather the rules and my own understanding of them. Isn't that right?

So crap nothing.

You were insinuating I had broken the rules and in knowledge i was ...weren't you? IF you are then you don't have an issue with me confirming it one way or another do you? Help me out here. It seems like i am putting more work in trying to nut this out that you and you are the one accussing me.

doesn't seem right does it?

Yes, that's right.

[Al Swearegen]

Nope. Sorry but I am concern not with semantics but with the TOS. If I have broken TOS and broken site rules i am leaving the site. You "know" I have and are not making a case for it. I am scrambling through the TOS and see it mentions that a breach of TOS is anything that breaches law in Texas or florida. That IS part of the TOS. Right?
So I have looked up Law in Florida and Texas around bestiality as you are insinuating and to see if my referenced quote to what another member wrote on bestiality about Cartman is a breach of that.

Didn't mention the tos, but rather the rules and my own understanding of them. Isn't that right?

So crap nothing.

You were insinuating I had broken the rules and in knowledge i was ...weren't you? IF you are then you don't have an issue with me confirming it one way or another do you? Help me out here. It seems like i am putting more work in trying to nut this out that you and you are the one accussing me.

doesn't seem right does it?

Yes, that's right.

OK let's see Intensity's position on this then.

Discuss. What is Intensity, today? How about tomorrow? And never mind the past; this is about what it is, now, and what it should be. People have left and others have joined. We won't be going back cos we shouldn't. It's not healthy.

Me, I still think that it's about enabling the spazzes cos we won't moderate them unless required to do so by the TOS (bestiality, that sort of thing). It's the place where we can say what's on our minds and be chastised for it. It's the place where we can speak our minds or choose to post mindless banter. It's the place for high Internet drama, and it's the place for sadness and quiet reflection (well, it could be). It's not for the sensitive type, but these days I wonder if it's because of a lack of interest rather than actual fear.

It's also just another message board and as such, not the end of the world.

Odeon said this as you posted.

So why does he take a particular view against bestiality?

Is bestiality against TOS?  Since when?  What about all the stuff Calandale used to post?

 

It's against the TOS because it's illegal in Texas (or Florida, can't remember which), where Hostgator is located.

The TOS that as i pointed out to yo when you were going all "crap. save it for the Admins for me", informs the way this board is moderated. BECAUSE it is illegal in Texas or Florida.

So what specifically concerning bestiality is illegal there

Found this so far, Jack

All services provided by HostGator may only be used for lawful purposes. The laws of the State of Florida, the State of Texas, and the United States of America apply
3.) Zero Tolerance Spam Policy
We take a zero tolerance stance against sending of unsolicited e-mail, bulk emailing, and spam. "Safe lists", purchased lists, and selling of lists will be treated as spam. Any user who sends out spam will have their account terminated with or without notice.Potential harm to minors is strictly forbidden, including but not limited to child pornography or content perceived to be child pornography (Lolita):
Any site found to host child pornography or linking to child pornography will be suspended immediately without notice.

Now I am going to try to look up the laws of Florida and Texas to see what or if any reasonable interpretations of any such laws may see me as having "crossed the line". I will be back with findings. As the person who threw this accusation out there...what have you got so far?

828.126 Sexual activities involving animals.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Sexual conduct” means any touching or fondling by a person, either directly or through clothing, of the sex organs or anus of an animal or any transfer or transmission of semen by the person upon any part of the animal for the purpose of sexual gratification or arousal of the person.
(b) “Sexual contact” means any contact, however slight, between the mouth, sex organ, or anus of a person and the sex organ or anus of an animal, or any penetration, however slight, of any part of the body of the person into the sex organ or anus of an animal, or any penetration of the sex organ or anus of the person into the mouth of the animal, for the purpose of sexual gratification or sexual arousal of the person.
(2) A person may not:
(a) Knowingly engage in any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal;
(b) Knowingly cause, aid, or abet another person to engage in any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal;
(c) Knowingly permit any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal to be conducted on any premises under his or her charge or control; or
(d) Knowingly organize, promote, conduct, advertise, aid, abet, participate in as an observer, or perform any service in the furtherance of an act involving any sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal for a commercial or recreational purpose.
(3) A person who violates this section commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(4) This section does not apply to accepted animal husbandry practices, conformation judging practices, or accepted veterinary medical practices.
History.—s. 1, ch. 2011-42.

Texas repealed Bestiality Laws in 1974

Now, Jack. You have said that I knowingly broke the rules. You said that I would get treated favourably for breaking the rules. You have said i was talking in semantics by looking at the laws of texas and florida which actually inform the TOS.

Now given the above. Can you please explain how I am breaking the rules and know it?

[RageBeoulve]

Quit being a fag, jack.

[Jack]

Have already stated, it's my understanding the rules of this site are that these are topics not acceptable for discussion, have already expressed the understanding that implications/accusations of people engaging in these activities are equally egregious offenses, have already expressed my own opinion that you are aware of unacceptable topics of discussion on this site. Only you can confirm what you know and don't know. Only an admin can confirm if my understanding of the rules of what can/cannot be discussed/implied/accused. Could be completely wrong about the rules of this site, and have stated my own lack of clarity on the subject. Not really sure what else you want.

[Jack]

Quit being a fag, jack.

But am feeling faggy today.

[RageBeoulve]

Quit being a fag, jack.

But am feeling faggy today.

I can tell. I would remind you of that old phrase, "pissing in an ocean of piss".